Following potential 2014 draftees
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Bawse Dawg
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Embiid's back is fine according to Chad Ford, he witnessed a private workout a couple of weeks ago. Says Embiid has added muscle and looked great. I would trade Kanter or Favors + 5 for a shot at Embiid. I might even throw in another first. LOL I know I am being hypocritical. However I think a healthy Embiid is the best player in the draft. Then if the Jazz were able to get another pick and draft Gordon.
Embiid
Favors
Gordon
Man no one would score against us. LMAO
How did we get Gordon?
spycam1
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Hantlers
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Funny how that impressive motor doesn't translate to any defense at all.
Either he's trying and he sucks at it, or he's not trying, thus, his motor is not impressive.
♪alt13
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I'm starting to think Exum will go 1 or 2. The secrecy that surrounds him is almost like he's so good nobody wants to tip anybody off that they want him. The secret that none realizes everyone knows. He might be the most legit #1 offensive player in the draft. He is a 6'5" pg with a supposedly super quick first step, killer instinct, and BB IQ.
MVP
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Cleveland may just do another stupidity and draft him. But why? They have Irwing don't they?
just 1) curious, and 2) padding the thread post count..
what's your top 5, in order, for best cbb teams?
Players who are quick, strong and coordinated do well in this league. The PFs that bust are the ones who are slow (like a Patrick O'Bryant), are too small (like Derrick Williams) or who don't have any ball skills (like TRob). Randle is so relentless, he's going to have an impact in this league. It'll take a double-team to stop him most often. He'll get blocked and get called for some offensive fouls, but he'll battle his way to a double-double every night.
To me, he and Vonleh are still neck and neck.
I was the first to pull back on Randle's expectations.. but I do believe his rebounding and getting to the line will translate. From there it's just a matter of improving his deficiencies like anyone else.. but he does have a decent floor because of boards and FT's.
Seeing how effective Shaun Livingston looked in the Nets-Heat series makes me think Kyle Anderson could be a solid 30-minute player in the right situation. He could play on or off the ball as a combo-guard or point-forward.
As of right now (assuming top-4 go as planned) my big board for the Jazz pick is:
1. Marcus Smart
2. Aaron Gordon
3. Noah Vonleh
4. Julius Randle
5. Dario Saric
Subject to change, would love it of somehow Exum fell to us.
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1. Marcus Smart
2. Aaron Gordon
3. Noah Vonleh
4. Julius Randle
5. Dario Saric
Subject to change, would love it of somehow Exum fell to us.
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You know that playoff basketball is very little about fast breaks?
Irving hasn't been the best playmaker in his first 3 years. He has 3 weaknesses:
-staying healthy
-playmaking
-defense
in no particular order.
1) Uconn
2) Kentucky
3) Florida
4) Wisconsin
5) Michigan State
Game6Conley
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he can do every dunk btw that first one is really impressive though his head is way above the rim. the Jazz should really consider trading 23 and 35 for LaVine.
Kyle Anderson said hes going to be absolutely unguardable in about 2 years, I agree. I think he can give you a good 15mpg if needed as a rookie too, the sell is an easy one on LaVine IMO, world class athlete in transition, just turned 19 and hes not a one trick pony, brings quick release shooting off the catch or dribble and ballhandling to the table
I've been waiting for this time of year to finalize my thoughts on LaVine, I've had him as lottery grade throughout the season, since he first gained attention. My player comparison is one of his mentors, Jamal Crawford but more explosive I think he will be used in a similar role.
at this point I don't think theres much question about LaVine being a great development project, its more of a question if teams want another development project, I say the Jazz have room for a player like this and would trade 23 and 35.
Game6Conley
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Dx is absolutely killing the competition this year, bringin the heat.
heres their scouting report by Matt Kamalsky on one of my favorite sleepers late in the 2nd round, Moussa Diagne, hes my favorite pick for a possible boom at the "Mr Irrelevant" spot. Diagne is definetly the last player on myboard i can say i want the Jazz to draft (not at 35, im talking buy #57 and stash). Last year James Southerland was that guy.
heres their scouting report by Matt Kamalsky on one of my favorite sleepers late in the 2nd round, Moussa Diagne, hes my favorite pick for a possible boom at the "Mr Irrelevant" spot. Diagne is definetly the last player on myboard i can say i want the Jazz to draft (not at 35, im talking buy #57 and stash). Last year James Southerland was that guy.
Discovered at a basketball camp in Rufisque, Senegal in the summer of 2010 by David Sanz, a coach with Basket Torrejon, Moussa Diagne arrived in Spain in the spring of 2011 at the age of 17, having barely played any basketball prior to that. He got his first taste of European hoops as an amateur in Spain's 4th division for Torrejon and competing in local junior tournaments where his size, athleticism, and instincts earned him a long term deal with ACB team Fuenlabrada, who purchased his rights, the same team that produced Gustavo Ayon and Bismack Biyombo.
Diagne made his ACB debut a year ago, but appeared in only two games with Fuenlabrada's 1st team, spending the majority of the year playing for Avila in the Spanish 3rd division. Finishing as the best per-minute rebounder and top player in defensive rating in that competition, Diagne was granted an opportunity to carve out a niche in the ACB this season, and planted himself firmly on the radar of international scouts with his play in his first real test against high-level competition, averaging 3.6 points and 4.7 rebounds over 14.8 minutes per-game.
The intrigue surrounding Diagne is obvious on first glance. Standing a shade under 7-feet tall with an outstanding wingspan, reportedly measuring 7-5, he has terrific size for a center prospect. He'll need to continue adding strength to his impressive 230 pound frame, but compensates with terrific speed and enough explosiveness to make good use of his length as a finisher and shot blocker.
At this point, Diagne's strengths and weaknesses as a prospect are fairly well defined. Combining his physical attributes with a tremendous motor, he ranks among the top-six players in one of the top leagues outside of the NBA in per-minute rebounding and shot blocking.
Very active with his feet, Diagne pursues the ball aggressively off the rim with reckless abandon on both ends, averaging a tremendous 12.9 rebounds per-40 minutes pace adjusted. Despite his lack of strength, Diagne shows good toughness rebounding in traffic, often getting a hand on the ball even after getting boxed out.
Diagne is an effective shot blocker for much the same reasons that he's a good rebounder. He goes after every shot attempted in his general vicinity, for better or worse, and has even come up with a number of chase down blocks running down smaller players in the open floor over the course of the year.
Aside from his rebounding and shot blocking, Diagne is fairly limited, but has a number of good habits that leave some room for optimism.
Defensively, Diagne, like many young, inexperienced shot blockers, is extremely foul prone. He has fouled out of 6 games this season and averages 8.1 fouls per 40 minutes pace adjusted due to how frequently he bites on fakes and his general lack of discipline, fundamentals and polish. Diagne's size and length make it easy for him to bother shooters when he goes straight up inside of closes out away from the basket, but his lack of strength makes it difficult for him to hold position on the block against more physically mature and experienced back to the basket scorers. He flashes nice lateral quickness, and plays with plenty of intensity, but just isn't quite polished enough to make the most of his tools at this stage.
On the offensive end, Diagne finds the vast majority of his scoring within a few feet of the rim in catch and finish situations. Possessing decent, but not great, hands, Diagne does a nice job cutting and rolling hard to the rim playing off his teammates and generating second chance opportunities crashing the boards. Finishing at a 63% rate around the rim, the promising young center looks to dunk anything and everything inside.
Showing little in the way of footwork and post moves, Diagne's offensive skill level is still very raw. He is not a threat away from the basket at this stage, and his 61% shooting from the line reflects his lack of great mechanics and touch. As much room as Diagne has room to grow offensively, he has a good grasp of his limitations for the most part. He may shuffle his feet from time to time or look awkward trying to make something happen late in the shot clock, but he rarely tries to do too much, focusing on setting screens, crashing the rim, and finishing strong in close.
Looking towards the 2014 NBA Draft, Diagne is among the more interesting draft and stash prospects whose name popped up on this year's early entry list. His age, lack of experience, and the fact that he's already contributing playing against quality competition leave plenty of room for optimism that he'll continue to improve in the coming seasons—as long as he's indeed actually the age he's listed as, which is somewhat of a subject of controversy in Spain. He gained plenty of exposure this season, and while he may be a few years away from contributing at the NBA level, it wouldn't be at all surprising to see a team invest a late pick in his long-term potential, even if he is indeed a little older than he's listed as.
Diagne made his ACB debut a year ago, but appeared in only two games with Fuenlabrada's 1st team, spending the majority of the year playing for Avila in the Spanish 3rd division. Finishing as the best per-minute rebounder and top player in defensive rating in that competition, Diagne was granted an opportunity to carve out a niche in the ACB this season, and planted himself firmly on the radar of international scouts with his play in his first real test against high-level competition, averaging 3.6 points and 4.7 rebounds over 14.8 minutes per-game.
The intrigue surrounding Diagne is obvious on first glance. Standing a shade under 7-feet tall with an outstanding wingspan, reportedly measuring 7-5, he has terrific size for a center prospect. He'll need to continue adding strength to his impressive 230 pound frame, but compensates with terrific speed and enough explosiveness to make good use of his length as a finisher and shot blocker.
At this point, Diagne's strengths and weaknesses as a prospect are fairly well defined. Combining his physical attributes with a tremendous motor, he ranks among the top-six players in one of the top leagues outside of the NBA in per-minute rebounding and shot blocking.
Very active with his feet, Diagne pursues the ball aggressively off the rim with reckless abandon on both ends, averaging a tremendous 12.9 rebounds per-40 minutes pace adjusted. Despite his lack of strength, Diagne shows good toughness rebounding in traffic, often getting a hand on the ball even after getting boxed out.
Diagne is an effective shot blocker for much the same reasons that he's a good rebounder. He goes after every shot attempted in his general vicinity, for better or worse, and has even come up with a number of chase down blocks running down smaller players in the open floor over the course of the year.
Aside from his rebounding and shot blocking, Diagne is fairly limited, but has a number of good habits that leave some room for optimism.
Defensively, Diagne, like many young, inexperienced shot blockers, is extremely foul prone. He has fouled out of 6 games this season and averages 8.1 fouls per 40 minutes pace adjusted due to how frequently he bites on fakes and his general lack of discipline, fundamentals and polish. Diagne's size and length make it easy for him to bother shooters when he goes straight up inside of closes out away from the basket, but his lack of strength makes it difficult for him to hold position on the block against more physically mature and experienced back to the basket scorers. He flashes nice lateral quickness, and plays with plenty of intensity, but just isn't quite polished enough to make the most of his tools at this stage.
On the offensive end, Diagne finds the vast majority of his scoring within a few feet of the rim in catch and finish situations. Possessing decent, but not great, hands, Diagne does a nice job cutting and rolling hard to the rim playing off his teammates and generating second chance opportunities crashing the boards. Finishing at a 63% rate around the rim, the promising young center looks to dunk anything and everything inside.
Showing little in the way of footwork and post moves, Diagne's offensive skill level is still very raw. He is not a threat away from the basket at this stage, and his 61% shooting from the line reflects his lack of great mechanics and touch. As much room as Diagne has room to grow offensively, he has a good grasp of his limitations for the most part. He may shuffle his feet from time to time or look awkward trying to make something happen late in the shot clock, but he rarely tries to do too much, focusing on setting screens, crashing the rim, and finishing strong in close.
Looking towards the 2014 NBA Draft, Diagne is among the more interesting draft and stash prospects whose name popped up on this year's early entry list. His age, lack of experience, and the fact that he's already contributing playing against quality competition leave plenty of room for optimism that he'll continue to improve in the coming seasons—as long as he's indeed actually the age he's listed as, which is somewhat of a subject of controversy in Spain. He gained plenty of exposure this season, and while he may be a few years away from contributing at the NBA level, it wouldn't be at all surprising to see a team invest a late pick in his long-term potential, even if he is indeed a little older than he's listed as.