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i don't really see the Magic passing on Exum either, there's maybe a 2% chance Milwaukee could take him or trade down to 3 or 4 and grab him.

the only player i see with a chance of unseating Exum @4 is Vonleh, i guess they would take Ennis at 12 too, its not likely though, all of the mock drafts pretty much agree its Dante, and their asssistant GM was apparently 'one of the few' high level NBA execs watching Exum last year in Prague
 
"He can shoot the ball out way past the arc. For a stretch four, that's what you want," said Ryan Blake, senior director of NBA scouting operations

its not just us in the draft thread saying it.

15/25 from 3 in 16 Big10 conference games is fairly prolific.. no?

Prolific? That's a very small sample size.

It's not that bad a sample size in my opinion. Of course, it doesn't guarantee that he's going to be a great shooter by any means beyond the arc, but it's definitely a very good sign.
 
Hear Phil Johnson on 1280 today? Seemed to be implying that a factor in choosing Hayward over Paul George was that George hadn't really led his team to anything.

Didnt he also imply indiana would have taken Hayward if they had choice on draft day?
 
Anyone see how SA put a stretch four in tonight, nullified Ibaka, and proceeded to roll the Thunder? This is the new NBA. Whoever we pick better have three point range.

Shooting draft: Vonleh, Rodney Hood, PJ Hairston

in this scenario id hope the Jazz buy a late 2nd rounder for Jokic or Moussa Diagne to stash.

Burke/ Livingston/ Garrett
Burks/ Meeks/ Hairston
Hayward/Hood/ Honeycutt
Favors/ Vonleh/ Evans/
Kanter / Gobert/ (Jokic/Diagne)

without Jokic/Diagne they are sitting at 14... the average age of 23.5 doesn't make me think this is all too realistic though
 
After hearing Lindsay talk about how the Jazz need shooters I really think that the pick is Vonleh or they trade down and take McDermott.
 
Vonleh's ballhandling better than Gordon's? Have any actual game footage proof?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqtlJ0fP_wA&t=446

Also there were a couple high school tapes a couple pages back then where you can see more ballhandling. I like how low his dribble is, how tight to his body(Gordon really dribbles it away from the body -> easy to swipe)
You can also see how he is under control on these moves. His versatility that he can finish with either hand around the basket even lowers the requirement of ballhandling to be efficient as defenders have a harder time gambling and have to listen to the big where to funnel him. And even then with his monster wingspan I have a hard time that Center not named DeAndre Jordan can swat his hooks.

Surprised he didn't shoot it well, according to a lot of you guys he has NBA range on his 3 ball.

#offnight

I'm not going to say he's a good or bad shooter, but sample size, my friend. Sample size.

Having said that, it is all we have, so at this point we kind of have to assume he's a pretty good shooter. I just won't be surprised if that isn't a strength of his as a NBA player.

I look at more than sample size. And his release is consistent and mechanically sound. He releases it quicker than Bosh who has absolutely no problem shooting 3s. Wrote a couple pages ago:
If he completely stops dipping it low and starts the motion with the ball in front of his chest in a direct release he'll be very very smooth.

I love that turn around left handed hook shot and banking it perfectly off the back board. using the backboard is a lost talent that vonleh has. (also what Duncan is known for)

I think vonleh and favors will be great.

He has great hands. With Favors and Vonleh I'd want a lightning quick point guard from somewhere and run run run!
 
What I like about Vonleh's shooting is the confidence with which he shoots. He doesn't hesitate, and he'll his dribble to set up a jumper. He's also comfortable taking a step back and shooting. All this says that he's confident, that he believes in his shot, and he shoots from distance opportunistically rather than only shoot when he's open. Then his percentages speak for themselves.
 
From Chad Ford Twitter account writing about Vonleh's work out in NY..."Said another(scout) "Vonleh's got elite physical tools and is very skilled. He should be in the same group with Wiggins, Embiid, Parker & Exum"
 
vonleh/McDermott in June. that is what I am hoping for right now.

make a serious offer to ariza
make a min offer to Jimmer
get Hayward for 10 to 11 per

Burke, Garrett, Jimmer
Hayward, burks
ariza, McDermott
kanter, vonleh, Evans
favors, Gobert

that is a team I could watch.

if vonleh matures quickly you look at shipping out one of the bigs
 
From Chad Ford Twitter account writing about Vonleh's work out in NY..."Said another(scout) "Vonleh's got elite physical tools and is very skilled. He should be in the same group with Wiggins, Embiid, Parker & Exum"

Draft is 5 deep guys, not 4. And we're sitting at #5 thanks to the coin flip. So Jazz DID get lucky!
 
vonleh/McDermott in June. that is what I am hoping for right now.

make a serious offer to ariza
make a min offer to Jimmer
get Hayward for 10 to 11 per

Burke, Garrett, Jimmer
Hayward, burks
ariza, McDermott
kanter, vonleh, Evans
favors, Gobert

that is a team I could watch.

if vonleh matures quickly you look at shipping out one of the bigs

McDermott will go 9-12. There's no way Jazz can get back into the lottery just by trading #23 and #35.
 
DL has traded every pick he has had for the Jazz, so we don't know what he has up his sleeve. But, if we stand pat at 5, I am all in for Vonleh.

I saw him play at least a half-dozen times on ESPN and I was not impressed because his game didn't seemed developed. However, the guy has great measureables, huge hands, has a handle, and a three-point shot.

I would take him any day over Smart, Randal, or Gordon. He is going to take some patience to develop, and I don't expect a ton from him next year. He could be huge a few years from now.
 
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