Archie Moses
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If Juan Jose Barea can play and get minutes for a winning team in the NBA, then so can Jimmer.
For those of you who don't like Jimmer...
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If Juan Jose Barea can play and get minutes for a winning team in the NBA, then so can Jimmer.
Correction, only the top 8 teams in the league need more than that.
Most teams do not require their players to play more than the token defense if they can shoot.
If Jimmer is to be an all-star, or starter he should be able to play some defense.
To make a team, he just needs to be able to make some shots.
That's my story and I'm stickin to it.
Jazz4ever
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Barea is freakishly quick, that his bankable skill. Jimmer does not have a bankable skill. Ineffecient volume scoring is not a bankable skill, we know that from Sir Chucker J Smiles.
jope
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scoring numbers from some reputable scorers in final college season
Jimmer 45.5%-FG 40.4%-3Pt 1.43 Points per shot
Deron 43.3%-FG 36.4%-3pt 1.19 Points per shot
carmello 45.3%-FG 33.7%-3pt 1.27 Points per shot
Wade 49.9%-FG 33.3%-3pt 1.40 Points per shot.
he's far from inefficient
hell, the dude is in the top ten in PER (#7 (30.53))
there are plenty of knocks on him but efficiency isnt really one of em.
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It doesn't matter where they are from.
What matters is if they are the best available player at the time, or if they add something to your team you need.
The Thriller
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It's amazing how many people base (all) their opinions on race and religion. I have a feeling that had Jimmer been born with a darker skin pigment and played at a public school many of his critics would would be his biggest fans right now.
If the dude is the BPA when we draft, take him.
If the dude is the BPA when we draft, take him.
kwb
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Well for the most part, statistically speaking, black players are usually faster than white players. So yes, in a sense, you are correct.
Jazz4ever
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Jimmer is also a senior, if you compare his last three years to any of the above they will pale in comparison. He is a decent pick but if the second pick is as high as #12 think Burks or Leonard would be better choices.
Burks or Leonard wouldn't be bad picks either, but so what if Jimmer is a senior?
That makes no difference, if they are going into the same draft it doesn't matter... it's all about what can you do now.
I guess you may be inferring that the non seniors would automatically improve their shooting percentages and that there is no chance they would decrease? There are many players that their percentages drop in later years, and their stock drops as well.
Jacob Pullen just this year was a pre-season all-american and he fell off the map because of his lack of production and drop in shooting percentages, and he is a senior.
I see what you are saying, but I don't agree.
Burks shoots 29% from 3. Do we really want him?
Jazz4ever
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He was 35% his first year, so is a bit similar to Hayward in that respect. His high FT% is usually a reliable gauge that he can become at least a decent shooter.
Other than that this guy is stellar though. Can create his own shot, moves excellent laterally on defense.
Jazz4ever
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Yeah I am rescinding my "inefficient volume scorer" comment I made earlier on him. Anyone with his shooting touch is going to have some role in the NBA and will never be a total bust. I guess the question comes down to does KOC feel confident with Devin Harris at PG. If not, Fredette might be the best choice.
There are so many question marks on most of the players in the draft.
Jimmer, can he turn into a legit PG as to being a good passer, and can he defend?
Most of the others, can they shoot.
The Tweeners, can they defend either position they are between.
I'm starting to get a little bit of a feel for some of the players in the draft, and these are the ones I am impressed with.
Sullinger, Williams, Irving, Fredette, Leonard, Brooks, Smith.
There is just something about the others that puts them down a notch in my book. I guess we will see what happens.
Beantown
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I think the best case scenario for Jimmer is like a Nick Van Exel when he played for Dallas. A 6th man type role who can score and create offense off the bench. He would be fun to watch that is for sure. If the Jazz pick him up with their own pick (if we dont make the playoffs) between about 12-16 I would not be against it.
Makes sense...unless you're Archie who thinks Jimmer will be the next Ray Allen.
Ray Allen and Reggie Miller will be like pond scum when Jimmer is through.
Their 3 pt shooting compared to Jimmers, will be like Shaq's to theirs.
They will put into NBA jam a new feature where the player is on fire, and has a halo..... which makes it so he can make the shot from anywhere on the court and it will never touch rim. Gospel music will be the background music.... it will be enlightening.