Free Agent Rumors Thread

[akirac73]

Max money is for...........
Eric Gordon
Rudy Gay
Carlos Boozer
Rashard Lewis
Gilbert Arenas
Joe Johnson
Amare Stoudemire

Yes...definitely all mistakes. But at least these players were once all-stars (except Eric Gordon, although he did have an all-star-like season in 2010-11 averaging 22 ppg). You could even throw Kirilenko into this mix of names.

So paying max for a guy like Hayward that hasn't done jack **** in the league would be a totally incomprehensible mistake beyond belief.

 

[The Midnight]

BTW I can see a team with cap room throwing $12m at Parsons pretty easily.

 

[slc]

OKC could not afford to keep Harden.
Houston is now in the same situation.
It will push their limits to get Melo and then keep Parsons.

 

[Stifle Tower]

OKC could not afford to keep Harden.
Houston is now in the same situation.
It will push their limits to get Melo and then keep Parsons.

Cap will be at $63.2M with the luxury tax at $77M.

Howard = $21.4M; Harden = $14.7M. 'Melo could get a max deal of 4/$95M from Houston. So let's put in $22M for Year 1 with 4.5% raises. Let's say Parsons gets 4/$40M with $9M in Year 1 and 7.5% raises.. That's $67M, leaving 9 more players at $1.1M each to fill the roster before the Rockets hit the tax threshold. I'd say it's likely 'Melo and Parsons both give up some cash, though, especially in the first year. They could fit a roster under the tax threshold. But I think Houston would be willing to exceed it for a legitimate shot at a title. If they don't get one, Howard is off the books in 3 more years.

BTW, I didn't include Lin because Houston says they already have a deal in place to dump his salary (I'd guess Philly but Utah is also a possibility).

 

[The Midnight]

Cap will be at $63.2M with the luxury tax at $77M.

Howard = $21.4M; Harden = $14.7M. 'Melo could get a max deal of 4/$95M from Houston. So let's put in $22M for Year 1 with 4.5% raises. Let's say Parsons gets 4/$40M with $9M in Year 1 and 7.5% raises.. That's $67M, leaving 9 more players at $1.1M each to fill the roster before the Rockets hit the tax threshold. I'd say it's likely 'Melo and Parsons both give up some cash, though, especially in the first year. They could fit a roster under the tax threshold. But I think Houston would be willing to exceed it for a legitimate shot at a title. If they don't get one, Howard is off the books in 3 more years.

BTW, I didn't include Lin because Houston says they already have a deal in place to dump his salary (I'd guess Philly but Utah is also a possibility).

If I know that HOU is working under those restrictions then I'm gonna throw one of them 'poison pill' offer at Parson averaging out at approx. $12m per year.

 

[GVC]

If I know that HOU is working under those restrictions then I'm gonna throw one of them 'poison pill' offer at HOU averaging out at approx. $12m per year.

What the hell does this mean?

 

[The Midnight]

What the hell does this mean?

U know the same thing HOU did to acquire Asik?

 

[GVC]

U know the same thing HOU did to acquire Asik?

Those contracts are for free agents with only 1 or 2 years of service time. Parsons is not eligible for a contract like that. Further, he's not obligated to sign any offer sheet with the Jazz. Finally, the Rockets match a Parsons contract for $12mm per year without blinking.

 

[Twin Towers]

Parsons is not signing a contract until the Rockets either Sign Melo or realize they won't get him.

If they sign Melo........Parsons can be had. Until that time we just don't know.

 

[turmoka]

Don't know if I am posting on the wrong thread. How about trying to get Evan Turner from Pacers (no matter if Hayward stays or not)?

 

[akirac73]

Don't know if I am posting on the wrong thread. How about trying to get Evan Turner from Pacers (no matter if Hayward stays or not)?

didnt the Pacers go into a free fall as soon as they traded for Turner? I'll pass. Rather go after Parsons instead.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

didnt the Pacers go into a free fall as soon as they traded for Turner? I'll pass. Rather go after Parsons instead.

Yea, it was all because of Turner.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

didnt the Pacers go into a free fall as soon as they traded for Turner? I'll pass. Rather go after Parsons instead.

Say no no no to Turner!!


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[Stoked]

On a side note did y'all hear how the Rockets messed with Lin? They put up media (billboards, banners...)with Melo in a Rockets Jersey wearing Lin's number...ouch.

 

[cowhide]

Dude used a low number of possessions on his team, and the possessions he used frequently ended in an assist. Dude is anything but a chucker. Seriously.

I can understand why people don't want Lance because of his attitude, but the dude continued to compete when his team was struggling. I'd rather take on that risk at ~$10mm than sign Gordo for $13mm+. The team needs some physicality/competitiveness, even if it comes with a little crazy. Throw Quin into the fire.

I didn't say he was a chucker but I watched some of the playoffs and there were moments where he completely abandoned team ball. There was a part of the game I watched where he shot the bal 5 times in a row. Twice without passing the ball. I do NOT underestimate his talent but supporters are discounted his immature behavior. He was a second round pick because of his behavioral issues.

 

[richgates]

On a side note did y'all hear how the Rockets messed with Lin? They put up media (billboards, banners...)with Melo in a Rockets Jersey wearing Lin's number...ouch.

Yeah, say what you will about the Jazz organization. I can't see them ever disrespecting a player like that.

 

[cowhide]

Hernandez was totally worth the trouble. Youngest active player in the NFL as a rookie, Pro Bowler that helped lead the team to the Super Bowl in his second season, productive when healthy in his third season (Pats in AFC Championship game). Lance probably isn't going to kill anyone.

Hernandez was rated as one of the top TE coming out of college talent wise but he didn't get drafted until the fourth round. Why? Concerns about his off the field behavior. Bill Polan the GM for the Colts didn't have him on their draft board because they deemed him too big of a risk.

Yea you should ask people around BOston if the embarrassment of having a multiple murder be one of the face's of your franchise was worth it. I can tell you from personal experience that the Patriots wished they had never had Fernandez. My comment had more to do with people who think a coach even a great one like Bill B. can keep a person under control with some magical wand they have. There is a reason why Stephenson isn't getting flooded with offers and it has nothing to do with a lack of talent.

 

[GVC]

There was a part of the game I watched where he shot the bal 5 times in a row. Twice without passing the ball.

Do you remember which series it was in? Were they bad shots/decisions?

 

[Stoked]

Yeah, say what you will about the Jazz organization. I can't see them ever disrespecting a player like that.

Me either. I would disapprove (not that they care) if they did.

 

[GVC]

There was a part of the game I watched where he shot the bal 5 times in a row.

I just went through the play-by-play for every Pacers playoff game. There wasn't a single instance where Lance shot the ball 5 times in a row.

There were 4 instances where Lance was responsible for at least 4 consecutive terminal possessions (possessions ending in a shot, shooting foul or turnover). 2 of these were 4 consecutive possessions, and 2 were 5 consecutive possessions (both had turnovers mixed in...thus no 5 shots in a row). In only one of these 4 instances did Lance score less than 1 point per possession, and overall he scored 19 points on the 18 possessions, drawing 4 shooting fouls in the process. The Pacers averaged about 2 points per 100 possessions less than this during the playoffs (105.6 v. 103.7).

Unfortunately, LP Broadband doesn't let me watch playoff games, so I can't check if he used these possessions without passing. He didn't ever shoot 5 times in a row though, and he was pretty productive when he used 4+ consecutive possessions.