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Game Thread: Utah @ BYU, Sat. 9/21 8:15pm MT, ESPN2

OK... whatevs









Followed by a lot of backpedaling...

lol. I'm not mad. But after seeing the picture, I jumped to conclusions too soon and shouldn't have blamed the person for ratting on him. Spencer Hadley gave the proverbial middle finger to the honor code and he has nobody to blame but himself for going to school at a place that has a crazy honor code like BYU has.
 
Well Yewts, good luck in the game. I hope you lose a close one.

It should be a good and interesting game.

I'm off to run away from Ugli because he hurt my feelings. Will be back Monday when I'm fully recovered from the mental anguish he caused me.

*I am not going out of town, so don't rob my home or steal massive deliveries from my porch
 
BTW. the infamous photo

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Spirit, Honor, Tradition!
 
Okay, I'm really not cool and not a kid anymore, so can someone explain to me why they hold up signs to spell out his name? Does everyone at the club get that treatment or it reserved for Mormon boys?
 
Wow....

Uhhh...

All of a sudden Devonte Christopher tweeting out that he had been drinking despite being under age looks smart!

Spencer Hadley, you my friend, are dumb!
 
Fishonjazz breakdown of tomorrows game! (as unbiased as possible, keeping in mind that I am more familiar with byu's personell than utahs... All stats off the top of my head, no google.)

Quarterback: Tayson hill is a beast running the football, but dreadful passing the ball...... Travis Wilson is also a beast running the ball and has shown that he is pretty damn good passer.
Edge: Utah.

Running back: Williams had like 130 yards in game 1 and 180 in game two with 30+ carries in each (again, off the top of my head, so I could be wrong) phenomenal numbers..... Utah started the season with York as the feature back and have since tinkered a bit and seem to have settled on james poole. Poole is fast and tough and figures to be a good back for the utes.... But Williams has been Dominant
Edge: BYU

Receiver: Pretty even here but have to give the nod to byu because of Hoffman (love dres though). Hoffman is set to shatter every receiving record in byu history, so nuff said. (I really liked Kenneth scott and if he hadn't have gotten injured it might have evened things out.
Edge: BYU

Tight end: This is not even close. Murphy and tonga in a landslide..... Im a huge fan of murphy and believe he will be playing on sundays.
Edge: Utah

Offensive line: One of the toughest to judge. Byu O-line in week was awful, but week two they were amazing due to some lineup changes. Utahs O-line was supposed to be a huge strength before the season started, but have had their ups and downs. I give this one to Utah (just barely) mostly based on how the O-lines compare "on paper"
Edge: Utah

D-line: For byu Kafusi has been Great and manumanuealla (?) has been a star in the making. For Utah orchard looks like another stud pass rusher (whats new), Palapoi looks very good and hemuli is ok.
Edge: Even (I think both lines are quite good and its too tough to call.

Linebacker: For Utah Fehoko has been good and riley is all over the place making plays. Byu's success is dictated by this position (imo) and for good reason. Van noy is the best player on byu (and probably Utah too), Fua looks like he could end up being just as good as van noy (might be a reach, but im going off his potential) and has been in the backfield all most as much as van noy. Unga has done his job in the middle perfectly and Hadley is one of the best stripper tippers the team has ever seen.
Edge: BYU

Defensive backs: Both teams DB's are not very good on paper and utahs have struggled on the field. Byu's DB's have not really been challenged much but got beat badly a couple of times against texas. I give an edge to Utah mostly based on their history at the position.
Edge: Utah

Safeties: For Utah eric rowe is pretty good and experienced and so is Daniel Sorenson for byu. I think Sorenson is the better of the two, but that is mostly just homerism talking. Each teams other safety is just window dressing.
Edge: Even (wanted to say byu but I said I would try not to be biased)

Special teams: Both teams special teams have been pleasant surprises. Utahs kicker (I forget his name) has been a well documented Cinderella type story and looks like he has been kicking field goals in college for 4 years.
For byu Sorensen is finally living up to the hype when he came out of brighton high. 7 for 7 on field goals for the year. Utah had the nice onsides kick too. I cant recall either team having any real issues in special teams other than byu's punter bobbling a snap and having a punt blocked (although that was at the height of a damn monsoon)
Edge: Even

GAME PREDICTION: Byu scores 3 touchdowns and kicks 2 field goals. Utah scores 2 touchdowns and kicks 2 field goals. Final score.... 27-20 BYU.
I think the game will have a lot of punts and feature mostly good defense but the fast pace of byu will inflate the scoring a little. Van noy will make at least one big play that causes a turnover
 
Receiver: Pretty even here but have to give the nod to byu because of Hoffman (love dres though). Hoffman is set to shatter every receiving record in byu history, so nuff said.

Hoffman is a helluva receiver. So explain to me why he has only 2 catches, total, so far. Really, I don't know, so if there is a reasonable explanation beyond "Hill can't throw", I'm eager to listen.

Hill looked like Barry Sanders against Texas, but I haven't seen much to convince me he can throw the ball. This pleases me because Utah's secondary is really bad.

Anyway, I guess my point being, I could see Hoffman's vast talent being largely wasted this year, if Hill doesn't figure out how to throw.
 
Fishonjazz breakdown of tomorrows game! (as unbiased as possible, keeping in mind that I am more familiar with byu's personell than utahs... All stats off the top of my head, no google.)

Quarterback: Tayson hill is a beast running the football, but dreadful passing the ball...... Travis Wilson is also a beast running the ball and has shown that he is pretty damn good passer.
Edge: Utah.

Running back: Williams had like 130 yards in game 1 and 180 in game two with 30+ carries in each (again, off the top of my head, so I could be wrong) phenomenal numbers..... Utah started the season with York as the feature back and have since tinkered a bit and seem to have settled on james poole. Poole is fast and tough and figures to be a good back for the utes.... But Williams has been Dominant
Edge: BYU

Receiver: Pretty even here but have to give the nod to byu because of Hoffman (love dres though). Hoffman is set to shatter every receiving record in byu history, so nuff said. (I really liked Kenneth scott and if he hadn't have gotten injured it might have evened things out.
Edge: BYU

Tight end: This is not even close. Murphy and tonga in a landslide..... Im a huge fan of murphy and believe he will be playing on sundays.
Edge: Utah

Offensive line: One of the toughest to judge. Byu O-line in week was awful, but week two they were amazing due to some lineup changes. Utahs O-line was supposed to be a huge strength before the season started, but have had their ups and downs. I give this one to Utah (just barely) mostly based on how the O-lines compare "on paper"
Edge: Utah

D-line: For byu Kafusi has been Great and manumanuealla (?) has been a star in the making. For Utah orchard looks like another stud pass rusher (whats new), Palapoi looks very good and hemuli is ok.
Edge: Even (I think both lines are quite good and its too tough to call.

Linebacker: For Utah Fehoko has been good and riley is all over the place making plays. Byu's success is dictated by this position (imo) and for good reason. Van noy is the best player on byu (and probably Utah too), Fua looks like he could end up being just as good as van noy (might be a reach, but im going off his potential) and has been in the backfield all most as much as van noy. Unga has done his job in the middle perfectly and Hadley is one of the best stripper tippers the team has ever seen.
Edge: BYU

Defensive backs: Both teams DB's are not very good on paper and utahs have struggled on the field. Byu's DB's have not really been challenged much but got beat badly a couple of times against texas. I give an edge to Utah mostly based on their history at the position.
Edge: Utah

Safeties: For Utah eric rowe is pretty good and experienced and so is Daniel Sorenson for byu. I think Sorenson is the better of the two, but that is mostly just homerism talking. Each teams other safety is just window dressing.
Edge: Even (wanted to say byu but I said I would try not to be biased)

Special teams: Both teams special teams have been pleasant surprises. Utahs kicker (I forget his name) has been a well documented Cinderella type story and looks like he has been kicking field goals in college for 4 years.
For byu Sorensen is finally living up to the hype when he came out of brighton high. 7 for 7 on field goals for the year. Utah had the nice onsides kick too. I cant recall either team having any real issues in special teams other than byu's punter bobbling a snap and having a punt blocked (although that was at the height of a damn monsoon)
Edge: Even

GAME PREDICTION: Byu scores 3 touchdowns and kicks 2 field goals. Utah scores 2 touchdowns and kicks 2 field goals. Final score.... 27-20 BYU.
I think the game will have a lot of punts and feature mostly good defense but the fast pace of byu will inflate the scoring a little. Van noy will make at least one big play that causes a turnover

I wasn't aware you could form full sentences.

This prediction is destined for board archive history.
 
On on a more serious note, those of you that are coming to LProvo probably should tack at least 15 minutes onto what you might normally if you're planning driving down close to gametime. In city traffic has been the worst I've ever seen it this week. They've closed off main roads. Other main roads are at 1 lane right now. It's a total mess. Driving in Salt Lake today actually felt like a nice break, and considering there are no 1-15 exits that are particularly close to the stadium.....it could be scary Saturday.

OH MY GOSH...

This is so true. Soooooooo true.

Thanks Duck for pointing this out.

AVOID AVOID AVOID Provo Center and Orem's Univ Parkway. OMG, these streets make the 405 in LA look like a cakewalk. It literally took me 45 mins to go from the top of the hill on University Parkway to get onto I-15. A distance of maybe 1 mile.

If I were you folks, I'd hit up Orem's 800 N exit and go directly east on it until you hit the Provo/Heber interchange at the mouth of Provo canyon. Then, stay right and go south towards the stadium. Last resort would be to hit up Orem's Center Street exit. But that's really pushing it. University Parkway? Ha, forget about it.

IMO, the best way to get to the stadium is to go as far east as you can and then go south past the front of Timpview High School. You can do this via Orem's 800 N exit or Center Street. Right before the stadium is a elementary school where you can park for free. Then, you walk 5-7 mins to the stadium. Anyone else agree with this? Or know a better route?

If you need any help or directions just send me a message.

I want all of you lil brother fans to witness this beatdown. :D

If any of you find yourselves south of Orem Center Street Exit... You're screwed... Plan on missing at least half the game (unless) you are 2-3 hours prior to the kickoff. Utah County is a mess right now with all the construction.

These are some great traffic tips for navigating games in Provo.

The other really important one is to leave the game early, in order to beat traffic going home. You know, like around the beginning of the fourth quarter. The only problem, however, is that too many people have been catching on to this. Apparently, last time the Utes were in provo, pretty much the entire stadium tried this traffic tip for some reason. I'm predicting a lot of them will bail about half-way through the 3rd quarter this time in order to beat the crowd.

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Hoffman is a helluva receiver. So explain to me why he has only 2 catches, total, so far. Really, I don't know, so if there is a reasonable explanation beyond "Hill can't throw", I'm eager to listen.

This is very easy to answer.
Game 1 hoffman didn't play due to a hamstring injury.
Game 2 byu ran for about 1, 000, 000 yards and didn't pass the ball.
Game 3 was a bye so he had zero catches..... utah better not sleep on hoffman, IIRC in the last two games against the utes hoffman has 14 catches and about 300 yards with riley nelson at QB

Hill looked like Barry Sanders against Texas, but I haven't seen much to convince me he can throw the ball. This pleases me because Utah's secondary is really bad.

Hill has been horrible in his two games so far this year, but he is better than the 33% he has shown. Remeber both games were rain delayed horrible weather game, not good passing conditions.
I don't think he is a great passer but he is better than what we have seen this year. After all Harbaugh wanted Hill to be stanfords qb of the future and harbaugh is supposed to be some kind of qb guru.... So he must have seen something in him from high school. (In his high school highlights he is a great passer, for whatever high school highlights are worth)

Anyway, I guess my point being, I could see Hoffman's vast talent being largely wasted this year, if Hill doesn't figure out how to throw.

I agree with this
 
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I hope BYU just comes out from play 1 bombing the ball deep. Hail Mary every play - Madden style. Taysom throws a nice deep ball and none of Utah's dbs have a prayer of covering anything that's catchable. His short passes seem quite ripe for pick 6 territory though. Just run it at their overrated front 7 all night, and test their secondary with as many deep balls as possible when you need to mix it up . I hope that's the gameplan.
 
This is very easy to answer.
Game 1 hoffman didn't play due to a hamstring injury.
Game 2 byu ran for about 1, 000, 000 yards and didn't pass the ball.
Game 3 was a bye so he had zero catches

Yes, what he said. That accounts for about half of it. The other half: Hill can't throw.
(or at least has been very, very bad so far)
 
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