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Game Thread: Utah Jazz @ NY Knicks 2/6/12, 5:30 MST

Jazz4ever said:
Millsap and Jefferson were both pretty bad. Considering we have not one reliable three point shooter, that means game over.
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atleast sap DID hustle
did play defense
and did get a GAME HIGH 13 rebounds(2nd higest is 8)
jefferson got 4 frickin rebounds in 35 minutes.

never thought i would say this but time to get bozoer back. atleast bozoe hustled for a rebound ;)
 
craig2112 said:
Numbers don't lie folks. You keep calling Jefferson the black hole, but he had 3 assists tonight.

Millsap had one.

I could list the rest of the stats, but you can look them up.


I would buy some of your crap if you were consistent, but you aren't. No matter what Jefferson and Millsap do, you all love Paul, and hate Al.
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Who said Paul played well tonight? Quit changing the subject.

Black Hole plays horrible D and slows the offense down considerably.

He doesn't rebound either...... Plain and simple. At one point we cut it to 5 I believe and a simple box out we get the rebound. Instead he doesn't and they get two extra chances an take it back to 7. That consistently happens to the hole.
 
Ellipse said:
Folks, I think the Millsap mid-season fade is in full force. He does this every year. I don't know the reason for it, but it has happened every year since his second year in the league. He starts off the season going gang-busters, and then his game just disappears.
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I think it's a combination of him falling in love with his jump-shot, and him getting to tired to bang down low. I like that this year he has upped his defensive game, but there wasn't really anyone to defend tonight. Just perimeter plays to cover, which is going to be really hard for any of our bigs.
 
craig2112 said:
Numbers don't lie folks. You keep calling Jefferson the black hole, but he had 3 assists tonight.

Millsap had one.

I could list the rest of the stats, but you can look them up.


I would buy some of your crap if you were consistent, but you aren't. No matter what Jefferson and Millsap do, you all love Paul, and hate Al.
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Who said Paul played well tonight? Quit changing the subject.

Black Hole plays horrible D and slows the offense down considerably.

He doesn't rebound either...... Plain and simple. At one point we cut it to 5 I believe and a simple box out we get the rebound. Instead he doesn't and they get two extra chances an take it back to 7. That consistently happens to the hole.
 
DutchJazzer said:
atleast sap DID hustle
did play defense
and did get a GAME HIGH 13 rebounds(2nd higest is 8)
jefferson got 4 frickin rebounds in 35 minutes.

never thought i would say this but time to get bozoer back. atleast bozoe hustled for a rebound ;)
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You could make an argument Jefferson actually had to boxout his man most of the time, where Millsap's guy was usually lurking at the 3 point line, allowing him to get easy unchallenged rebounds.

Not arguing Jefferson didn't rebound like crap, but I think that is at least a factor in the huge disparity.
 
I can't stand players like Jefferies and Kurt Thomas. All they do is try to draw charges and flop all game long, and it just kills the flow of the game.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Also, I thought 2 of Jeffries' charges were bogus calls. One at the start against Harris and one against Hayward.
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How about the foul they called on Kanter. He has the ball at the top of the key being hounded, then he turns and they call and offensive foul as the knick player flops> I don't even think there was any contact, and that was when the game was still close but the knicks were starting to pull ahead.

That is how refs can do it. Just call some bad calls like that to screw a team as the other team is making a run. Give them a helpful push.

If you read the book by the gambling ref, he explains in detail how Bavetta is the best at doing that.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
I think it's a combination of him falling in love with his jump-shot, and him getting to tired to bang down low. I like that this year he has upped his defensive game, but there wasn't really anyone to defend tonight. Just perimeter plays to cover, which is going to be really hard for any of our bigs.
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I think Watson / BigAl seem only 75% to me. That is a factor as well.

I will be in Indy tomorrow nite to see Jazz, hoping to see Tinsley play instead of Harris......wishful thinking.
 
lin > harris
novak > millsap
chandler > jefferson
jeffries > hayward
d'antoni > corbin

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simple as that.

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jefferson gets 15 million dollars per game to get outrebounded on every single position since he doesn't know how to box out. harris gets 10 million dollars to show no effort and getting killed by an akward little chinese. we got outplayed because we showed no will, no heart! simple as that!
 
craig2112 said:
Numbers don't lie folks. You keep calling Jefferson the black hole, but he had 3 assists tonight.

Millsap had one.

I could list the rest of the stats, but you can look them up.


I would buy some of your crap if you were consistent, but you aren't. No matter what Jefferson and Millsap do, you all love Paul, and hate Al.
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Al had 4 rebounds tonight *******
 
Cope said:
Who said Paul played well tonight? Quit changing the subject.

Black Hole plays horrible D and slows the offense down considerably.

He doesn't rebound either...... Plain and simple. At one point we cut it to 5 I believe and a simple box out we get the rebound. Instead he doesn't and they get two extra chances an take it back to 7. That consistently happens to the hole.
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Like I said, if I saw you calling Paul out when he stinks it up, then I would take your opinions more seriously.

You hate Al so much, it doesn't matter what he does. I really wonder why you even bother to watch the jazz if they have your most hated player as their go-to guy.
 
Cope said:
He doesn't rebound either...... Plain and simple. At one point we cut it to 5 I believe and a simple box out we get the rebound. Instead he doesn't and they get two extra chances an take it back to 7. That consistently happens to the hole.
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Jefferson didn't have many boards tonight. But most nights, he does and you still hate him.

Like I said, it doesn't matter what he does. You are gonna hate. And the more I call you out, the more pissed off you get.
 
to make matter worse indiana will be well rested tomorrow while the jazz will have no rest. the worst is still ahead.
 
Would have been nice to see some burks, with a little evans sprinkled in.
Seems like the knicks played small ball and we went with favors and kanter... I was listening on the radio on the way home (i hate locke) and it sounded like favors was gaurding walker who is a 3 point shooter. Maybe we should have tried to go small against them with burks, CJ, hayward or something
 
This has nothing to do with whether or not the Jazz have ever been a good road team.

The Jazz were playing a D-League team tonight. Not a bad NBA team, but a D-League team. There isn't a single Knick outside of Melo and Amare who could start on an NBA team with a winning record, and some of them couldn't start on an NCAA tournament team. And to make things worse, there is no one to hold the players responsible for this kind of thing. Larry H. is dead and Sloan is driving a tractor on a farm somewhere.
 
craig2112 said:
Jefferson didn't have many boards tonight. But most nights, he does and you still hate him.

Like I said, it doesn't matter what he does. You are gonna hate. And the more I call you out, the more pissed off you get.
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ooh really. he is lazy. and if your lazy and stand in the paint long enough not playing D you can get 5 rebounds a game
 
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