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Gamethread: OKC Thunder @ Utah Jazz. 7PM MST.

fishonjazz said:
My god he was good last night. I thought we overpaid for him. He might end up being a steal
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He was a steal. No might, maybe or other qualifiers needed. Jingles exudes what this team is. Hardworking, unselfish, hustling, smart and confident.

Jingles was a steal. Udoh was a mother****ing steal. Sefalosha was a steal. Rubio was a steal. Joe Jesus was a steal. Mitchell was a steal. Gobert, Favors, Burks and Hood are all steals at their current salaries. Haven’t seen Jerebko enough yet, but he might prove to be a steal also. There’s a pattern here.
 
yamers said:
stats dont lie buddy.
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It's true Mitchell's shooting is off. But you must be like an all-star voter who only evaluates based on PPG. Mitchell has played well in other aspect sf the game, including his defense and assists.

Assists: 4/2/6 (he led the team last nght)
Plus/minus: +22,-1,+3

I see a player making a few rookie mistakes, but generally doing everything else well, except his shot isn't falling.

Also, I know +/- can be deceiving, but Jazz aren't playing well when Rudy is in the game. He's been negative EVERY game thus far: -14, -15,-2. That is, by far, the worst for all Jazz players.
 
But the 13th pick of the draft hasn't played like a superstar 3 games into his rookie season. Plus he can't jump off of 1 foot. Total bust. Fire everyone in the front office.

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Ellis269 said:
He was a steal. No might, maybe or other qualifiers needed. Jingles exudes what this team is. Hardworking, unselfish, hustling, smart and confident.

Jingles was a steal. Udoh was a mother****ing steal. Sefalosha was a steal. Rubio was a steal. Joe Jesus was a steal. Mitchell was a steal. Gobert, Favors, Burks and Hood are all steals at their current salaries. Haven’t seen Jerebko enough yet, but he might prove to be a steal also. There’s a pattern here.
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Well, JJ contacted the Jazz (perhaps after being rejected by many teams; we don't know the whole back story). But I have to give credit to DL for Sefalosha and Udoh, especially. The FA market had all but dried up after Utah waited for "the decision." Then suddenly, DL has a flurry of signings. Udoh wasn't on ANYONE'S radar. And yes, Ingles. That was like the Bolombiy situation. Clippers decided to keep another player, IIRC, because of an injury at a different position.

I really wouldn't classify Burks and Favors as "steals," though. Burks was a lottery pick and hasn't performed up to that. Favors was selected #3, right? And Utah got him for an all-star. Now, I guess because DWill flamed out to his health problems, that was a steal. At the time, it was a fair trade. And I'm still not a fan of the Favs/Gobert tandem.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Some thoughts:

-If the Jazz can play like they did last night with any consistency, this is a 50-win team, even in this conference. Unbelievable how good this team can play so far, and they should only get better.

-With all due respect to Rudy, if there's a defensive player better than Udoh in the league at this point in the season, I want to see who it is. Rudy is blanket protecting the rim, but Udoh's defensive floor vision, instincts, and timing are blowing me away. He seems to make every possible correct decision and more. Totally blown away.

-Even on his new contract, Ingles is a damn steal. Pretty sure all of the best Jazz lineups will feature him and Rubio. His biggest issue is not shooting enough? Amazing.

-Rubio can only get better. The chemistry still has to develop as players are still surprised at having passes coming to them and it causes turnovers. When those situations get cut down, that's another three-or-so baskets a game. I don't love his pulling up for threes, but his pull-up midrange shot looks to be money and that's going to be important for his PnR with Rudy. And Jesus, the dude just hustles and gets into it.

-Mitchell in a lot of ways has been dog****. That he still impacts the game positively bodes well for him and the Jazz as he refines his shot selection, converts better, and builds chemistry with others. I think we would do well for him to cool it a bit, but I think he'll put it together.
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Will someone rep this post for me? TIA
 
cmw said:
But the 13th pick of the draft hasn't played like a superstar 3 games into his rookie season. Plus he can't jump off of 1 foot. Total bust. Fire everyone in the front office.

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The fact that this is what you're translating what people have said about Mitchell to this is pathetic, really.
 
Archie Moses said:
The fact that this is what you're translating what people have said about Mitchell to this is pathetic, really.
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You are right. The fact that anyone would expect a rookie to step right in and be a superstar is pretty pathetic.
dong2ha said:
2nd start of his nba career and he plays against westbrook george and melo. that must be so weird


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Archie Moses said:
Should I consult you before I post in the future on what's needed?
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Nah, just trying to help you out. Seems like you are wasting your time arguing and telling us the same thing over and over.

I'm fine if you keep going though.
 
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I think JJ has been really good for us so far but has also been a bit of a black hole and has missed, or just chosen not to pass to wide open guys.
 
fishonjazz said:
I think JJ has been really good for us so far but has also been a bit of a black hole and has missed, or just chosen not to pass to wide open guys.
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He does seem to be in iso-joe mode so far, but isn't that what we need most from him? I'm hoping he rubs off on Burks honestly, they are both scorers first and foremost IMO.
 
fishonjazz said:
I think JJ has been really good for us so far but has also been a bit of a black hole and has missed, or just chosen not to pass to wide open guys.
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JJ is gonna be big when we need a basket at the end of games this year I think. Anything he gives during the game is just a bonus for me.

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cmw said:
You are right. The fact that anyone would expect a rookie to step right in and be a superstar is pretty pathetic.



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I think that having higher expectations than shooting 5/25 doesn't mean he's expected to be a superstar 3 games in. He's played well on the defensive end, but has a lot of work offensively.
 
Archie Moses said:
I think that having higher expectations than shooting 5/25 doesn't mean he's expected to be a superstar 3 games in. He's played well on the defensive end, but has a lot of work offensively.
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I work nights, so I record all the games. I usually read the game logs after I watch the game. You want to see the ridicolousness, then try that some time. A hand full of people on here freak out after every mistake(or perceived mistake) to try to prove they are right. There is some good posters, and informative poster on here like fish, or cy. But the endless nonsense gets old dude. Just try rooting for the kid and understand he is a rookie who is just playing a game.

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[MENTION=4944]Rubashov[/MENTION] came up with a great name for jingles.

Aussie Mongrel. Love it
 
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