Gamethread: Utah @ Jeffersons Tonight 5pm or some such time

[Fabtrey]

I'm not a victim at all. I have watched Wiggins and Parker play and they do things on a basketball court that are truly special.

parker is worth the tank. wiggins? maybe.

just let it be. play hard and develop our own players. we will still pick top 10. and we will end up with another solid pick.

 

[GVC]

Someone also make me understand why Jefferson is getting any minutes at all. He flat out told the world this week he is not resigning with the Jazz he is "going championship hunting." So lets get this straight, last year he was considered crap on the bottom of the shoe you scrape off at Golden State. I think he played less than five minutes a game. Golden State essentially pays the Jazz to take on his crappy contract. Corbin the veteran loving fool that he is decides to start him and play him major minutes over Burks (who is really coming on strong lately). What do the Jazz get for revitalizing his career? Not the chance to resign him next year on a favorable contract; they get kicked in the face. Yet Corbin still played him almost 21 minutes. Why?? Who cares if he is playing well?? He's just trying out for other teams. Why do the Jazz let themselves be used?? Why not at least play guys who will be with the team next year?

Bringing one of your top 3 ball handlers/creators off the bench balances lineups. Burks is getting 30+ minutes per game and closing. The Jazz don't have anyone else to slide into RJ's role right now (unless Ty slides Marvin back to the 3, which may happen at some point if/when Kanter/Gobert/Rush/Clark are ready for more minutes).

 

[Mission Accomplished]

parker is worth the tank. wiggins? maybe.

just let it be. play hard and develop our own players. we will still pick top 10. and we will end up with another solid pick.

we have plenty of solid players it is time to really complement them with a future star

 

[Mission Accomplished]

Miami didn't stop with wade

San Antonio didn't stop with The Admiral

LA didn't stop with Kobe

Detroit didn't stop with Prince

These teams would have been good, maybe even better than good. They were able to add pieces great players through the draft and free agency to set themselves up.

 

[Fabtrey]

we have plenty of solid players it is time to really complement them with a future star

like i said only surest future star in this draft is jabari parker. anybody in the draft has potential to be just a good solid player. just look at wiggins today. guys can't consistently hit the jumper yet. and he gets lost in the game. he basically is still a 'potential' guy. embiid looked legit, but again so did thabeet when many claimed he would be legit. randle was beasting against lesser talent. he always looks solid, but there is no guaranteeing that he will be a future star. could just be a solid 17/10 guy

BOTTOM LINE. THERE IS NO SHAQ, NO BRON, NO ANTHONY DAVIS, NO D ROSE, NO DWIGHT HOWARD IN THIS DRAFT. only transcendent talent i see is jabari parker.


espn is hyping this draft little too much.

 

[addictionary]

Every gamethread should have its own Boxscore.

So I stole this one from LP.

Heh.




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[dd11]

Yay, another win. Do we need a franchise player or a very good starting player, that could be difference between pick 1-4 or 5-12.

 

[Revolution 9]

It's depressing, because the way we are playing we won't get a top 3 pick. Hayward has not stepped up to be that man. Without Parker or Wiggins or Hayward playing well we are in a tough situation moving forward.

 

[Revolution 9]

obviously you didn't watch the game.

trey killed bobcats' momentum 3 times in 4th qtr. without his timely clutch shots, we don't win this game.

he is the future.

He was pretty awesome, and you are correct he did kill their runs.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

Would y'all relax! This is an incredibly deep draft, and potentially holds 4-6 stars

Wiggins
Parker
Randle
Embiid
Exum
Smart
Am I missing anyone?

I do suggest a long losing streak soon though, so we can insure a top six pick, and who knows maybe the ping pong balls will get us another top three pick.

 

[oldtimer]

Bringing one of your top 3 ball handlers/creators off the bench balances lineups. Burks is getting 30+ minutes per game and closing. The Jazz don't have anyone else to slide into RJ's role right now (unless Ty slides Marvin back to the 3, which may happen at some point if/when Kanter/Gobert/Rush/Clark are ready for more minutes).

Your absolutely right that Jefferson balances the lineup and every five games or so he has a really good game. Again, who cares. Start Burks and Play Ian Clark instead as a backup for spot minutes. Jefferson is just using us and told the Jazz he will not resign (freakin championship hunting) . Who cares if Jefferson wins us a couple more games that we would be better off losing.

 

[GVC]

Again, who cares.

The players and coaching staff (and even some of the fans).

 

[//r00t 4 Jazz]

Back to the game, rebounding is really starting to piss me off, Jazz give up WAY to many offensive Rebounds. Even Favors gave up to many this game to Jefferson, okay that is all, just needed to let that out.

Currently the Jazz have the most losses out of any team in the NBA, only the Bucks have a worse winning percentage, again this is a long season other bad teams will go on a small winning streak and the Jazz young players will have slumps. As someone else said before the season started nobody thought the Jazz would have the worst record but be in the running for the top 5 worst records, the horrible start got fans overly rooting to have the worst record when it really wasn't ever a realistic option (baring injuries).

 

[fishonjazz]

In NBA basketball, if you get 6 fouls, which are illegal physical impedements of the opposing team players, they don't allow you to play anymore.

Just curious did burke foul out or even come close?

 

[Grandpa Jazz]

Obviously it's just as hard to be #30 as it is to be #1. Maybe harder.

 

[fishonjazz]

Tyrone Corbin is dressed well again today, have to giv props for that.

Lol

 

[fishonjazz]

Well, goodbye, Wiggins/Parker.

Long ago

 

[fishonjazz]

Congrats to the Jazz. A couple of big wins over Orlando and Charlotte pushing them closer to getting a good, but not great player. And this after I think we can all see Utah has no real stars amongst their current youngsters. Jazz will be fighting for that all-important 8th seed for years to come.

That

 

[fishonjazz]

How can we be happy about a 7-16, 4 assist night? That's not the efficiency the Jazz need from their PG.

Kinda what I thought

I was confused by everyone saying how great he played..... he played decent

 

[fishonjazz]

I'm a "quasi-tanker", but I can only imagine the meltdown that would occur if we tanked our way to the worst record, and ended up with the 4th overall pick, which is the most likely scenario.

I would rather have the 4th overall pick than 5 through 14.