George Hill coming to Utah

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

Why are his assists numbers so low? Did not really watch Indiana at all last year so wondering why? Also his assists numbers for his career are quite low.

He plays with Monta and PG. he played off the ball a ton more then he had it in his hands. Also more of a combo guard.

 

[LjJazzman]

Late to the party, just wanting to be put into the camp that ****ing LOVES this trade and actually expected something similar to happen.

Also put me in the camp that thinks Hill fits WAY better on this team then Teague and its not even close.

Can't wait for the season to start.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

The more I look at this deal the more I like it.

We likely had to use our capspace on a one or two year guy. We can now give the excess space to Hill and Favors and get a big discount in future years on Hill and a slight discount on Favors. Don't look at Hill as a rental... We will reconfigure his contract and add two years.

Could look like this...

Hill's current salary $8M... Give him an additional 10-11 M this year so his current salary would be $19M. We can then discount his future salary up to 40%... so his next two years could start around $11M. It's like giving him a two year $33M extension (which is fair value imo) but the cap hit is much easier to handle.

The numbers may change a bit but this is the best long-term use of our cap space. Sit out FA unless a Casspi/Lin/teletovic like bargain is there... Use our cap space now when we don't need it for discounts when we will.

 

[magic]

People saying Utah is now a playoff team because of THE trade. Psh, we ain't no playoff team just because we got Hill...

We are a championship team!!!

Now where's my Kool-Aid?

 

[Coach Ellis]

Important question that hadn't been asked yet. . .

Does anyone else hope that George Hill goes back to rocking the platinum blonde hair?

 

[VINYLONE]

Oh great just great. Now rumors are Hill is demanding contract renegotiation for a max deal. He is basically threatening to have a down season and leave to Phoenix after contract is up. I bet Dennis caves in like he did on the Kanter trade.

Source please?

 

[Stoked]

Source please?

There isn't one. [MENTION=15]VINYLONE[/MENTION]

 

[Rgiss]

I don't mean to get my predictions out of hand, but I saw the Jazz as a 6 or 7 seed pre trade if healthy. I now see them as a 4 or 5 seed if healthy


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[fishonjazz]

Jeff Teague > Gordon Hayward

Kevin Love > Favors

I need more great takes like this from [MENTION=228]green[/MENTION]!

Harrison barnes > all those dudes

 

[silesian]

The trade hasn't been officially announced so there might be more pieces moving.

Would be nice, but I would not get my hopes up. If there was further significant pieces they would likely be in the rumor mill.

 

[SCS]

It was a bad trade, period. We gave up a valuable asset for a 30 year old combo guard. We could have signed a similar player in free agency without giving up an asset. If they didn't like this group of prospects then trade the pick for future picks so you can carry the value over. Trading the pick for a type of player you can sign in free agency is basically giving the pick away for free.

 

[SojoDave]

Does anyone know what time the Jazz championship parade will be next June?

 

[fishonjazz]

Important question that hadn't been asked yet. . .

Does anyone else hope that George Hill goes back to rocking the platinum blonde hair?

Chris Brown

 

[silesian]

Those saying Utah Jazz and DL obviously like Hill more than Teague are dumb. HILLS OWN TEAM LIKES TEAGUE MORE THAN HILL. What does that tell you?

Teague's own team likes their current backup more than Teague. What does that tell you?
Teague's own team likes the 12th pick more than Teague. What does that tell you?

Both Teague and Hill had "issues" with their current teams. Hill felt underappreciated.

 

[silesian]

The more I look at this deal the more I like it.

We likely had to use our capspace on a one or two year guy. We can now give the excess space to Hill and Favors and get a big discount in future years on Hill and a slight discount on Favors. Don't look at Hill as a rental... We will reconfigure his contract and add two years.

Could look like this...

Hill's current salary $8M... Give him an additional 10-11 M this year so his current salary would be $19M. We can then discount his future salary up to 40%... so his next two years could start around $11M. It's like giving him a two year $33M extension (which is fair value imo) but the cap hit is much easier to handle.

The numbers may change a bit but this is the best long-term use of our cap space. Sit out FA unless a Casspi/Lin/teletovic like bargain is there... Use our cap space now when we don't need it for discounts when we will.

Strategic and well thought out. My only quibble is Hill's market value seems high.

 

[RandyForRubio]

It was a bad trade, period. We gave up a valuable asset for a 30 year old combo guard. We could have signed a similar player in free agency without giving up an asset. If they didn't like this group of prospects then trade the pick for future picks so you can carry the value over. Trading the pick for a type of player you can sign in free agency is basically giving the pick away for free.

Who's the similar player we could've gotten in free agency?

 

[Revolution 9]

Now that we've had a day to process this it seems like a win.

We get a solid contributor, and someone to help at the 1.
We can still add a draft pick if needed. Seems like there
are a lot of options there.

So we'll bring in Hill, Exum, Burks to our core. Plus any other picks that make the team.
We were very close to making the playoffs. This should put us over the top.

 

[Nate505]

Jazz got the total worse end of this..
Indiana basically upgraded Teague with Hill becauce yall were stupid enough to give the number 12 pick to a guy who averaged 12 points and 5.9 assist last year. WOW
Atlanta unloaded Teague for a late lottery pick. Only because Utah was dumb enough. I like Hill for the Jazz and think he is a solid player but gave uop way to much for him. The other 2 teams clearly made out better and it isn't even close.

Now I know it was a great trade.

 

[Nate505]

It was a bad trade, period. We gave up a valuable asset for a 30 year old combo guard. We could have signed a similar player in free agency without giving up an asset. If they didn't like this group of prospects then trade the pick for future picks so you can carry the value over. Trading the pick for a type of player you can sign in free agency is basically giving the pick away for free.

What similar player was to be had in free agency.

 

[Ron Mexico]

So @green @Boris @pgab and @ncoloradojazz hate this trade? Interesting... hard to argue with that collection of brilliance and/or whoever some of their main accounts are.