Mr. McGibblets
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First Greg responds to Karl on twitter tonight saying Karl is lying. I know this was mentioned in the other thread, but with Greg's latest blog entry I thought it deserved its own thread.
twitter.com/greginutah
Now he has a new blog post laying it all out. Nuts stuff. I've pasted it here in case it gets deleted:
https://blogs.lhm.com/
****Edit 1*****
Saturday Feb. 4 - Sloan released a statement through the Jazz stating that he always had the support of the Jazz organization:
https://www.deseretnews.com/blog/41/10012939/Rockmonster-unplugged-Sloan-denies-lack-of-support.html
Locke with some interesting insight. Believes the jazz were already planning on trading Deron before Slown quit. That would somewhat debunk the whole "it's Deron or me" type claim some have claimed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53E5Vzq44z8&sns=em
****Edit 2****
Saturday Feb 4 - Malone responds:
https://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/sports/53443629-77/malone-miller-jazz-karl.html.csp
****Edit 3****
Phil Johnson was not happy with Monsons article and defended the Jazz yesterday morning. I had forgotten to include this previously.
Interview yesterday with Phil Johnson - "There was no force out or undermining or any of that stuff." He also says Monson never even called him for his (Johnson's side) yet Monson still said Phil had no comment.
https://1320kfan.com/index.php/audio/listen/dj_and_pk_phil_johnson_feb._3_2012

twitter.com/greginutah
Hey Karl- you're lying. You have my number. Next time you need a seat to a Jazz game, call me. You can have mine.

Now he has a new blog post laying it all out. Nuts stuff. I've pasted it here in case it gets deleted:
https://blogs.lhm.com/
Karl Malone
February 3rd, 2012
Karl Malone
I have always believed in taking the high road and addressing my grievances in private. I have always remained silent relative to the media on those types of issues for that reason. However, when Karl Malone recently made comments about how he was treated by the Utah Jazz when he attended a Utah Jazz game last season, he crossed a line. He put me in a position where I have to defend the Utah Jazz and set the record straight. I can no longer afford to sit back and let Karl make comments that are factually inaccurate without defending the franchise and our family.
Karl Malone was a warrior. It has been said that nobody worked harder than he did when he was a member of the Utah Jazz. He was one of the greatest power forwards to ever play the game. His statistics speak for themselves: career averages of 25 points and 10 rebounds per game, 14- time All-Star, two-time MVP, Hall-of-Famer, the achievements go on and on. He played for the Utah Jazz for 18 seasons. During that time he missed only ten games. Karl, along with John Stockton, led the Jazz to the NBA finals twice. His number hangs in the rafters of EnergySolutions Arena and his likeness stands tall in the plaza. Karl’s value as a player to the Utah Jazz is difficult, if not impossible, to quantify.
Karl is an extremely generous person. I am personally aware of many charitable things he’s done over the years, and undoubtedly he’s done more for the less-fortunate than most of us will ever know. He’d give you the shirt off his back.
Karl has been honored and respected by the Utah Jazz franchise and the Miller family since he arrived here in 1985. My dad tore up a half dozen contracts during Karl’s career because Karl kept demanding more. Karl was high-maintenance- on a scale few people are ever exposed to- throughout his career. My dad accepted that because Karl gave everything he had as a player, and he brought 25 and 10 every night. The benefits were clearly there. I have tried to leave it at that and respect him for what he’s done for the Utah Jazz. I’ve bitten my tongue time and again when Karl has made derogatory comments. I’ve tried to keep in mind the words of one of my mentors close to the situation who said “Karl Malone is giant pain in the ***, but he’s our pain in the ***.”
The fact is Karl is still as high-maintenance as he ever was, but now he has nothing to offer to offset the grief and aggravation that comes with him. Some would argue that he could coach our big men. I would love to have Karl inspire them and teach him how to be warriors like he was. That can’t happen. Karl is too unreliable and too unstable. Let me explain.
When I was the general manager of the Honda dealership Karl and John Stockton co-owned in Sandy, Utah, I was responsible to coordinate the grand opening. John and Karl agreed to sign autographs for one hour beginning at 3:00 as part of the ceremony. People started lining up first thing in the morning and by 3:00 there were hundreds of people lined up throughout the dealership. John arrived three minutes early and had a seat at the autograph table. At 3:15 Karl still wasn’t there. Concerned about keeping John longer than agreed, I made the decision to have John start signing autographs. Karl showed up at 3:30. Some people stayed around and formed a second line to get Karl’s autograph, but most left disappointed and angry.
A couple of years later there was a lockout in the NBA. By then, the Honda dealership was established, employing about 85 people. Karl co-hosted a radio show at that time and made some comments on the air about wanting to play for a team “in a town where it rains” and when the lockout was over he’d “demand to be traded”. His comments were well documented. The next day car sales dropped by half. Karl continued to make similar comments on his show. After a few days I drove to the studio that broadcast his show and waited until his show was over to speak with him. I told him I respected his right to say whatever he wanted, but that his comments were keeping customers away. I suggested he consider the impact his comments were having on his partner(s) and on the 85 people whose livelihoods depended on customers coming to his dealership. I still remember the surprised look on his face when I pointed those things out to him. Thankfully, that was the end of his trade demands.
Some years later Karl scheduled and cancelled or blew off a number of lunch appointments with me. On three separate occasions Karl had one of his assistants schedule a lunch appointment with me. The first time Karl never showed up. When I called his assistant I was told that Karl had something come up and he wouldn’t be able to join me. We rescheduled. I got a call on the way to the second appointment a few weeks later to tell me Karl couldn’t make it. That happened again the third time a month or so later.
A couple of years ago Karl called me to see if our family would be willing to sell him the real estate under his Toyota dealership in Draper, Utah. I told him I’d be happy to discuss it with him. I drove to the dealership and we met in his conference room. Karl’s disposition was very cold at first, but as the conversation progressed, he gradually warmed up. We agreed in concept to the deal, and by the end of the meeting Karl said he thought we should spend more time together. I agreed and suggested we have lunch a couple days later, to which he agreed. Two days later, as I was about to leave for the lunch appointment, he had someone call to tell me he wouldn’t be able to make it.
A year ago, when Jerry retired, Karl rushed to Salt Lake City. He got in front of every camera he could find at the first game following Jerry’s departure. He positioned himself as an authority on Jerry’s departure by saying something like “the Jerry Sloan I know isn’t a quitter. He left because he didn’t feel wanted.” Karl wasn’t in the locker room during the conversations with me and Jerry. Had he been, he would have seen me (and my mom) do everything possible to convince Jerry to stay. By his own admission Karl hadn’t spoken to Jerry since Jerry left. Karl’s comments on the radio and on national television made an already stressful situation worse. Then in his next breath, on national television, Karl asked me to hire him as a coach.
These are just a few experiences I’ve had with Karl that clearly demonstrate that he can’t be counted on. I am not willing to invite the elements of unreliability and instability into the Jazz organization. It would obviously do more harm than good.
Earlier tonight I sent out the following tweet relative to Karl’s claim that he had to buy a ticket to that Jazz game from a scalper because he couldn’t get one from the Jazz: “Hey Karl- you’re lying. You have my number. Next time you need a seat to a Jazz game call me. You can have mine.” All three statements are true.
Karl has been welcome at Jazz games since he retired- not just as a guest but as an insider, as alumni. Jazz staffers and management have gone above and beyond to show him respect and take care of him and his family.
Karl, I’m not sure where or how our relationship became so sour. I wish it was otherwise. I’m sorry if I’ve offended you in any way. I’d love to do whatever I can to mend the fence and make you feel welcome at Jazz games. I would love to have you as an ambassador for the Utah Jazz. You have a standing invitation to do both.


****Edit 1*****
Saturday Feb. 4 - Sloan released a statement through the Jazz stating that he always had the support of the Jazz organization:
https://www.deseretnews.com/blog/41/10012939/Rockmonster-unplugged-Sloan-denies-lack-of-support.html
"I would like to set the record straight regarding my retirement from the Utah Jazz. I had the unwavering support of the Miller family during my 23 seasons as head coach with the franchise and I left on my own volition. It is not true that the Millers undermined my authority as head coach. I had their complete backing to run the team as I wished and was assured that no player could ever overrule my decisions.
"The Millers encouraged me to stay with the team and gave me multiple opportunities to do so. They felt strongly that I should wait at least until the end of the season to resign and did everything they could to keep me coaching.
"I do not wish to make any further statements regarding this issue. It is time for me and my family to move on and I ask that the media respect my wishes and respect the integrity of the Miller family and all that they have done for the Utah Jazz and this community."
Locke with some interesting insight. Believes the jazz were already planning on trading Deron before Slown quit. That would somewhat debunk the whole "it's Deron or me" type claim some have claimed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53E5Vzq44z8&sns=em
****Edit 2****
Saturday Feb 4 - Malone responds:
https://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/sports/53443629-77/malone-miller-jazz-karl.html.csp
Karl Malone did not back off on Saturday from comments he had made about Jazz management’s handling of Jerry Sloan’s retirement nearly one year ago. Sloan, meanwhile, issued a statement on Saturday in which he said he had the Millers’ full support during his tenure.
Malone contacted The Salt Lake Tribune to respond to Jazz CEO Greg Miller, who tweeted on Friday evening that Malone was dishonest and later wrote in his blog that Malone was "unreliable" and "unstable." Miller also wrote that Malone was "extremely generous" and cited his many contributions to the Jazz and the community. However, he detailed a list of grievances against the Hall of Famer dating back a number of years.
"I expressed what I feel and I don’t regret what I said," Malone told The Tribune on Saturday. "It’s what I believe about Coach Sloan."
Last Friday, Malone called out Miller and Jazz general manager Kevin O’Connor for their involvement in Sloan’s February 2011 resignation, saying he believed they undermined the longtime Utah coach. "On the whole handling of that, I would have to give [them] a D or F, and I would lean more toward an F," Malone said.
O’Connor refuted Malone’s version of events in a lengthy rebuttal.
"Karl wasn’t in the room, I was in the room," O’Connor said in part.
Sloan, also a member of the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame, said through a statement released by the team on Saturday that he had the unwavering support of the Miller family.
"I left on my own volition. It is not true that the Millers undermined my authority as head coach. I had their complete backing to run the team as I wished and was assured that no player could ever overrule my decisions," Sloan’s statement said. "The Millers encouraged me to stay with the team and gave me multiple opportunities to do so. They felt strongly that I should wait at least until the end of the season to resign and did everything they could to keep me coaching.
"I do not wish to make any further statements regarding this issue. It is time for me and my family to move on and I ask that the media respect my wishes and respect the integrity of the Miller family and all that they have done for the Utah Jazz and this community."
Malone said he would defer further comment about Miller until he had a chance to speak with him in person.
"We’ve all become very brave when we’re tweeting, texting, blogging. We just write and press send. I don’t have time for that," Malone said.
"Don’t tweet it, don’t blog it, don’t text it, give me a little human element. ... I’m in town two or three times a month. Until I see him face to face, there won’t be any more comment about Greg Miller. ... He’ll see me again."
In the Twitter post, Miller said Malone was dishonest about being unable to get a game ticket.
"Hey Karl — you’re lying. You have my number. Next time you need a seat to a Jazz game, call me. You can have mine," Miller said via his account at 6:33 p.m. Malone had told The Tribune he had to buy a ticket from a scalper to attend the Jazz game following Sloan’s retirement announcement.
Miller’s follow-up blog heavily criticized Malone, saying, "The fact is Karl is still as high-maintenance as he ever was, but now he has nothing to offer to offset the grief and aggravation that comes with him."
Malone played 18 years for the Jazz, teaming with John Stockton to carry Utah to two NBA Finals appearances.
****Edit 3****
Phil Johnson was not happy with Monsons article and defended the Jazz yesterday morning. I had forgotten to include this previously.
Interview yesterday with Phil Johnson - "There was no force out or undermining or any of that stuff." He also says Monson never even called him for his (Johnson's side) yet Monson still said Phil had no comment.
https://1320kfan.com/index.php/audio/listen/dj_and_pk_phil_johnson_feb._3_2012
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