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Historically Great Offense

KqWIN said:
Verbatim you said



I am one of those people, not the only one btw. So am I not allowed to comment on that? Of course I wanted to talk about that. This is a basketball forum for basketball discussion.

Next post, again verbatim:



You can say this is or isn't about me, doesn't even matter. Point is, your only argument is attacking the person, not the argument. That's what makes it a personal. Whether it's to me or not, you're trying to devalue the person making the argument, not the argument itself.

It's all very predictable that you did this again. It's all very predictable that you made a psychological judgement on someone , "hiding their homerism", and then went on to say that I don't even understand myself lmao.
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It sounds like you self-identify with the stock profile of a poster that I wrote about. And it also sounds like you realize I’m not talking only about you, but more specifically about a position that someone might take.

But, boy, you got defensive!

I’ve broken down the Phoenix suns style in a point-by-point fashion multiple times for over a year now. You seem to think you can get some kind of leverage over the fact that this hasn’t happened in this thread. Which is hilarious.
 
NAOS said:
It sounds like you self-identify with the stock profile of a poster that I wrote about. And it also sounds like you realize I’m not talking only about you, but more specifically about a position that someone might take.

But, boy, you got defensive!

I’ve broken down the Phoenix suns style in a point-by-point fashion multiple times for over a year now. You seem to think you can get some kind of leverage over the fact that this hasn’t happened in this thread. Which is hilarious.
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Thank you for the lesson about myself, great basketball forum psychologist lmao. Can't wait for the next one lmao. I can only imagine what secrets about myself I will discover.
 
According to NBA.com the Jazz have the
- #1 efg%,
- #1 2pt fg%
- #3 3pt fg%
- #5 efg% in transition
- #1 efg% in pick and roll
- #6 efg% off spot ups
- #4 efg% off hand offs
- #7 efg% off catch and shoot
- #1 fg% on drives
- #1 efg% on pull up jumpers
- #1 fg% on paint touches

We are also the #5 offensive rebounding% team in the league. So even though we miss shots less than any team in the league, we are one of the best at getting a second chance to not miss again.
 
KqWIN said:
Thank you for the lesson about myself, great basketball forum psychologist lmao. Can't wait for the next one lmao. I can only imagine what secrets about myself I will discover.
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I haven’t tried to show/teach you anything. I have no idea what you’re talking about right now, or how you’ve gotten yourself so twisted around.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
According to NBA.com the Jazz have the
- #1 efg%,
- #1 2pt fg%
- #3 3pt fg%
- #5 efg% in transition
- #1 efg% in pick and roll
- #6 efg% off spot ups
- #4 efg% off hand offs
- #7 efg% off catch and shoot
- #1 fg% on drives
- #1 efg% on pull up jumpers
- #1 fg% on paint touches

We are also the #5 offensive rebounding% team in the league. So even though we miss shots less than any team in the league, we are one of the best at getting a second chance to not miss again.
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I remember last year we were doing really well with offensive rebounding early and then that somewhat waned as the season went on. We'll see if that happens again this year. It's honestly understandable that the effort drops off later in the year, but it needs to be there for the playoffs.
 
infection said:
I think it’s sideline OOBAATO that you’re looking for. I’m sure we’re 30th there. At least last year.
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Right, yes. Quin always seems to draw up the worst plays out of timeouts, or JC always hijacks the play.

I would assume a significant portion sideline oob plays were from timeouts, although I'm not sure if they are considered separate here.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Right, yes. Quin always seems to draw up the worst plays out of timeouts, or JC always hijacks the play.

I would assume a significant portion sideline oob plays were from timeouts, although I'm not sure if they are considered separate here.
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Ok, Andy Larsen just posted a whole bunch of more stats on Twitter, it looks like we are #2 out of time outs this year, which is mind blowing. There are a bunch of other interesting stats there as well.

I guess it goes along with the theme of the thread that instead of dwelling on the bad, to appreciate the amazing things going on right now.
 
If you are looking at the Jazz right now and pissing in your Cheerios, you are probably a historically miserable person.

Jazz are going to shred the Lakers. They can't shoot OR play defense.
 
framer said:
If you are looking at the Jazz right now and pissing in your Cheerios, you are probably a historically miserable person.

Jazz are going to shred the Lakers. They can't shoot OR play defense.
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They've got one of the softest schedules in NBA history until the 5-6 game stretch they have before the All-Star break, and they've got the entire NBA media on their side - not to mention the refs, just wait until Anthony Davis shoots 20+ FTs a game when it counts, like he did every time he fell down in the Suns/Lakers series last year.

Anyone who has watched the NBA for a long time knows the Lakers when they have talent like this are always a threat.

And if you don't believe they're gonna turn it around at some point - again look at their schedule. Freaking TAILOR MADE for them to take their time and turn it on with how trash that schedule is.
 
The Lakers are a hot mess right now, which is very fun for me being in California. That said, if they figure out how to pull things together they could be very dangerous. But my bet is this is a complete flame-out.
 
infection said:
Gobert is in the paint when CP3 is drawing him out and shooting over him. He’s also in the paint when guarding CP3 and he dumps off or gives the lob to Ayton. The problem isn’t Gobert being in the paint, it’s about who else on our team is in the paint (or rather who isn’t — nobody).
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Exactly. I look forward to seeing how that plays out. If they were going to force gobert to play on the 3 point line i wouldnt look forward to that.
We played pheonix last year and I enjoyed the overtime game despite the loss. It was a fun game. I havent enjoyed games against the clippers and warriors when gobert had to guard the 3 point line. Those games sucked


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SoberasHotRod said:
Hey, we're not allowed to talk about our historically exploitable defense in this thread. This is the place we go to avoid thinking about that...
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If top 3 in the league defensively is historically exploitable then our opponents are really stupid for not exploiting it more often.


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fishonjazz said:
If top 3 in the league defensively is historically exploitable then our opponents are really stupid for not exploiting it more often.


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I would say this is very much like our rebounding -- we're one of the top couple teams in rebounding, if not the top, but in the clutch we were like 27th last year. Our rebounding looks really good over 44 minutes or so that it drowns everything out. Us being a top defensive team is kind of like dominating rebounds over 43 minutes of the game. It's the other 5 minutes I'm worried about.
 
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