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How strong is your support for Quin Snyder?

How strong is your support for Quin?

  • Very strong

    Votes: 15 23.1%

  • Strong

    Votes: 20 30.8%

  • Ok with it

    Votes: 18 27.7%

  • Weak

    Votes: 10 15.4%

  • Very weak

    Votes: 2 3.1%
  • Total voters
    65
str8line

str8line

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Pop ripped his Spurs team a new one, calling their performance "pathetic" after last nights win. That's right, after a win.

Is Quin doing a good job and is he the right coach to lead us to the land of banners?
 
Quin is doing what he can with what he has.....

honestly it's not his fault that players can't execute....

It's tough....Favors went down. Hill is out....burks out....
 
yamers said:
honestly it's not his fault that players can't execute....
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isnt that the definition of a coach's job? to get the players to execute the plan? If the personnel can't execute the plan, then it is the coach's fault for making a game plan that can't be executed.
 
Give him a full roster and we'll see. When George was around he was playing some of the best ball of his career, and we had our best start since the D-Will days.
 
Stronger than it is for the GM.

The team's gotten way too many clean looks from 3 to just be shooting 34%. That's not on Quinn.

I'd say the execution on offense is there. It's finishing which has been the issue.

Quinn isn't the reason Hayward is shooting 25% from 3. This whole team is constructed around Hayward, he's the straw that stirs the drink and the rising tide that lifts all boats.. and he's missed a few games, and hasn't been that in the last few, despite having plenty of clean looks.
 
You all know my thoughts on this situation.

I don't support him at all.
I'm not sure if he's even a better coach than Corbin. Numbers/stats/difference of circumstances all support that.
He's a bad coach and he has hype on national/international media. Everyone's calling him a good coach without much insight or observation.
Remember the Scott Brooks hype in 2010-2011? Exact same situation. Who calls Scott Brooks a good coach now?


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str8line said:
Pop ripped his Spurs team a new one, calling their performance "pathetic" after last nights win. That's right, after a win.

Is Quin doing a good job and is he the right coach to lead us to the land of banners?
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I love Pop. Guy respects the game, and is tough as nails on his players.
 
dalamon said:
Give him a full roster and we'll see. When George was around he was playing some of the best ball of his career, and we had our best start since the D-Will days.
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I've been critical of him over a few things, especially some of the line-ups he puts on the floor, but I agree with this. Let's give him a healthy roster and see what he does with it.
 
jope said:
isnt that the definition of a coach's job? to get the players to execute the plan? If the personnel can't execute the plan, then it is the coach's fault for making a game plan that can't be executed.
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The Jazz are missing several key players. Best bench player pg and two way big. That's a lot of missing talent scoring defense, and leadership. Getting a full healthy starting unit of Hill, Hood, Hayward, Favors, and Gobert to exicute is one thing. It's another when your filling holes with less experienced and talented players mixed in. Exum and Lyles may one day be very good, but right now they are young raw and inconsistent. Add the fact that with the loss of Hill and favors defensively, our entire defense starts and stops with Gobert, and that's too much to ask of him. Having Hill and Favors and Burks gone adds extra pressure on Hood and Hayward to carry the team offensively.

When was the last time Coach Q had a healthy lineup. Things were going quite well befor Favors went down. I don't think this losing streak can be blamed on Quin. It's been a tough start with the schedule and injuries are wearing out the team noticeably.
 
"Give him a healthy roster." You guys realize that's only happening if we get rid of Burks and Favors right?
 
His O and D sets are lazy sets. Utah runs very little set plays. Most possessions look like this. We walk the ball across half court we do a passing weave above the 3 point line, we do this for 20 seconds the jack up a contested 3 pointer..... its terrible basketball. Ugly to watch! And when the 3 is not falling what do they do? THEY SHOOT MORE OF THEM!!! cause getting to the paint would be a terrible idea..... The only guys I have seen making buckets in the restricted area these last 4 games is Exum, gobert and lyles. And they seem to be looking fairly good over the last few games.
I think Quinn is a great players coach. but if you cant get your team to execute your offense, Especially when your one of the youngest teams scoring at the slowest pace in my eyes he should be worried about his job. Especially since DEF is what he preaches but we let everyone score at will.... Like is said at the beginning. Its lazy, all of it. The trend of going down 10 in the first 5 mins, LAZY. guards letting their man by them cause they are use to gobert being a monster, LAZY. Not cutting and only getting 15 assists, LAZY. this is an ugly brand of basketball being advertised right now.... It makes it hard to be a jazz fan.
One last thing then my rant will be done. Hill makes Quinn look better, why? Cause hill knows how to run a team and offense. The jazz strong start was thanks to Hill. Not Quinn having the right pieces. Great players find ways to win, thats what hill does for the jazz. Same goes for Coaches, they find a way to win. They dont call a timeout with 5 mins left when down by ten then call it a learning experience in the post game interview....
****PLease feel free to tell me i am way off base, but i dont think i am****
 
I believe that Quin is a good teacher and at first I hung on every word. But his in game coaching doesn't seem to beat out the competition. Plus I haven't wanted to hear what he had to say in ages. I'm 'meh' on him right now with a wait and see attitude. We were flowing smoothly when Hill was healthy.
 
dalamon said:
Give him a full roster and we'll see. When George was around he was playing some of the best ball of his career, and we had our best start since the D-Will days.
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I think the measure of a leader comes from what he does when the chips are down, not what he does when the deck is stacked in his favor. Look what Sloan did in '04.
 
LogGrad98 said:
I think the measure of a leader comes from what he does when the chips are down, not what he does when the deck is stacked in his favor. Look what Sloan did in '04.
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The NBA also sucked as a whole in '04, at least compared to now. Not even arguable the league is much stronger top to bottom than it ever was in the 00's.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
The NBA also sucked as a whole in '04.
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So you are saying you think Snyder is better than Sloan? Not sure what your point is. That year showed what a good coach could do with inferior talent.

And yeah the Lakers in full force with Kobe and Shaq and the Spurs and pistons in their primes. I'm amazed we even had basketball way back then. Didn't they shoot few throws underhand? what a bunch of rubes.
 
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