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Jazz and Knicks discussing Donovan Mitchell trade per Shams Charania and Tony Jones

From the Knicks perspective you get to hold onto Toppin + Quickley + Grimes + a couple picks so you have options to potentially make another move in the future.
 
Barrett + Rose make a little more than the minimum amount of salary we could take back in a Donovan deal straight across. This just keeps sounding better and better.

Barrett/Rose + 23/25/27 or 24/26/28 unprotected 1sts + a pick swap in 26 or 27 + Dallas 2023 1st or Milwaukee’s 2025 1st

Sign me up.
 
Giving up Barrett to keep Grimes is Knicks doing Knicks things. I know he's going to need new contract but we aren't paying anyone anyway and outside of rhe money RJ is so much better than Grimes. It is almost like we showed so much interest in Grimes that the Knicks have decided to keep him at any cost.
 
The point for the Knicks is can Barett be one of the 2 or 3 star player they can rely on to finally get better? Barett is not that good and i can understand if they dont wanna pay him the max contract he think he deserve. Sep 6th is coming soon and things will accelerate when training camp come.
 
Knicks fans are a special breed, at least on Twitter. Quite literally, they don't seem to know how to read (nearly every single one of them misread a graphic showing a list of available Knicks assets as Ainge demands), don't believe they should have to give up value for an arguably top 20 player, consistently think every one of their young players is better than said Top 20 player, but want Rose to the close the deal as soon as possible.

The myopia is bordering on Laker fan levels of insufferability.
 
TheStormofWar said:
Knicks fans are a special breed, at least on Twitter. Quite literally, they don't seem to know how to read (nearly every single one of them misread a graphic showing a list of available Knicks assets as Ainge demands), don't believe they should have to give up value for an arguably top 20 player, consistently think every one of their young players is better than said Top 20 player, but want Rose to the close the deal as soon as possible.

The myopia is bordering on Laker fan levels of insufferability.
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They have one good year and it goes to they damn heads. They are much closer to the team they were last year than the team they were in the empty arenas year.
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
0 pressure, probably not, but probably 0 urgency to get a deal before the season starts or very minimal if the deal isn’t what they want.

If the report is correct that the 49ers had some offers they liked the deal might be done by now if the jazz felt urgency or pressure to trade Don.
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Ainge is an innovative mfer. Can’t get a deal done you like in the nba then look to other leagues… heard he may trade Don for the entire Oakland As franchise… beat that deal Knicks!
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Ainge is an innovative mfer. Can’t get a deal done you like in the nba then look to other leagues… heard he may trade Don for the entire Oakland As franchise… beat that deal Knicks!
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Geez Louise you guys. It was a mistake. Lol this is the most excited I’ve ever been for a 49ers season, they had been on my mind, I was walking into work typing that on my phone, it’s hard for me to type and walk. Lol
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
Geez Louise you guys. It was a mistake. Lol this is the most excited I’ve ever been for a 49ers season, they had been on my mind, I was walking into work typing that on my phone, it’s hard for me to type and walk. Lol
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In fairness.. Mitchell would be pretty excited to play for the Mets. Getting a few frps in another sport would certainly be innovative.
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
Geez Louise you guys. It was a mistake. Lol this is the most excited I’ve ever been for a 49ers season, they had been on my mind, I was walking into work typing that on my phone, it’s hard for me to type and walk. Lol
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I think it’s smart… Ainge is dealing with Crypto while others are still bartering goods and services
 
Here's a few things, that in a vacuum, would make me scratch my head at, but when put together make me believe that a deal is close to being agreed upon. Or perhaps the deal is already agreed upon and we're just waiting until we can include some of the new TWolves players in the deal; and my money would be on the latter. #1) Donovan hasn't said a word about anything, hasn't been seen wearing or doing anything Jazz related on social media (minus the Snow Canyon LLWS shoutout). Just somewhat strange for a team's star player if he thought there was a chance he'd be donning (pun) a Jazz uniform again. #2) RJ Barrett has not signed an extension. #3) Colin Sexton remains in limbo - not sure why this isn't getting more attention. He's by far the best player in the league that's technically up for grabs, even though he's coming off of an injury. A player like that doesn't not get at least a decent offer sheet by now. The fact that he hasn't done anything, and CLE hasn't done anything screams that he's waiting for this domino to fall. And from Sexton's camp perspective this isn't an unknown domino. I think if you're him, or his representation, you know exactly what's happening, or about to happen, otherwise you would have done something else by now.
 
margodydek said:
Here's a few things, that in a vacuum, would make me scratch my head at, but when put together make me believe that a deal is close to being agreed upon. Or perhaps the deal is already agreed upon and we're just waiting until we can include some of the new TWolves players in the deal; and my money would be on the latter. #1) Donovan hasn't said a word about anything, hasn't been seen wearing or doing anything Jazz related on social media (minus the Snow Canyon LLWS shoutout). Just somewhat strange for a team's star player if he thought there was a chance he'd be donning (pun) a Jazz uniform again. #2) RJ Barrett has not signed an extension. #3) Colin Sexton remains in limbo - not sure why this isn't getting more attention. He's by far the best player in the league that's technically up for grabs, even though he's coming off of an injury. A player like that doesn't not get at least a decent offer sheet by now. The fact that he hasn't done anything, and CLE hasn't done anything screams that he's waiting for this domino to fall. And from Sexton's camp perspective this isn't an unknown domino. I think if you're him, or his representation, you know exactly what's happening, or about to happen, otherwise you would have done something else by now.
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Thy pontification is inference to the best explanation, which, in the absence of more telling, robust evidence, is acceptable. As an empiricist, I generally call for a harkening back to experience. I reject inflationary metaphysics, the violation of Okham’s Razor, especially when it concerns the Jazz. Hypothetical entities should not be multiplied beyond necessity, because those entities will also require explanations. Yet all of us in Edinburg await the sound trades of Daniel Ainge.
 
margodydek said:
Here's a few things, that in a vacuum, would make me scratch my head at, but when put together make me believe that a deal is close to being agreed upon. Or perhaps the deal is already agreed upon and we're just waiting until we can include some of the new TWolves players in the deal; and my money would be on the latter. #1) Donovan hasn't said a word about anything, hasn't been seen wearing or doing anything Jazz related on social media (minus the Snow Canyon LLWS shoutout). Just somewhat strange for a team's star player if he thought there was a chance he'd be donning (pun) a Jazz uniform again. #2) RJ Barrett has not signed an extension. #3) Colin Sexton remains in limbo - not sure why this isn't getting more attention. He's by far the best player in the league that's technically up for grabs, even though he's coming off of an injury. A player like that doesn't not get at least a decent offer sheet by now. The fact that he hasn't done anything, and CLE hasn't done anything screams that he's waiting for this domino to fall. And from Sexton's camp perspective this isn't an unknown domino. I think if you're him, or his representation, you know exactly what's happening, or about to happen, otherwise you would have done something else by now.
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The Lakers waiting to fill out their team is the other thing in limbo. I believe all will become clear on September 6/7.
 
On the Hoops Collective podcast, MacMahon thinks a deal with the Jazz and Knicks gets done before the season starts and Windhorst doesn't think they will be able to come to an agreement before the season. They also discussed a hypothetical deal between the Jazz and Lakers, the money works for a Westbrook and THT for Bogey, Conley, Clarkson and Beverley trade...MacMahon and Bontemps think the Lakers would have to give up both of their 1sts in that deal and Windhorst thinks they would only have to give up one of them.
 
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