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Jazz and Knicks discussing Donovan Mitchell trade per Shams Charania and Tony Jones

sip said:
At some point these so called other teams are just going to say screw you because we are strictly using them as leverage against the knicks with no intention of actually making a move with them. I just hope that this doesn't drag out to the point that we begin to burn bridges with multiple gm's that simply don't want to engage with Ainge in the future.
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September 6th we have to start showing our cards... that's when the Minny guys can be moved. Once every deal is "available" we (and others) will need to **** or get off the pot. It may not be a NY deal but the Lakers deal or other similar deals will need to start consummating or teams will move on.
 
sip said:
At some point these so called other teams are just going to say screw you because we are strictly using them as leverage against the knicks with no intention of actually making a move with them. I just hope that this doesn't drag out to the point that we begin to burn bridges with multiple gm's that simply don't want to engage with Ainge in the future.
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Perhaps, but maybe these trades include multiple pieces (bev, beasley, etc.) that can't be moved until August 30th.
 
Gameface said:
Probably one where the biggest stumbling block is protection or no protection. I think we all know Ainge's preference on that one.
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Ainge wants to raw dawg them picks.
 
Wondering if we end up with Grimes/Toppin/IQ (I kinda like that trio tbh) and 2 unprotected picks... 3 protected picks and maybe a swap or two.
 
The Fresh Prince said:
KnicksFan TV have Marc Berman on live right now.

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Kinda hilarious they fall for the same basic NY fan talk of "Knicks have leverage... the more time that goes on the more leverage they have..."

Everyone is convinced Leon is dug in and being so strong... when its just he took a vacay and we have a two week wait until the Minny guys can be moved. The heat comes in a couple weeks on both front offices and then we will see how they handle it.
 
So Ainge asked for 7. Knicks offered 5 worst possible picks.
Ainge said no.
Just trade Mitchell to the Knicks for 6 picks like I've been saying since January.

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Handlogten's Heros said:
Wondering if we end up with Grimes/Toppin/IQ (I kinda like that trio tbh) and 2 unprotected picks... 3 protected picks and maybe a swap or two.
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I still have a hard time believing Ainge pulls the trigger on a deal for less than 3 unprotected firsts. I think he cares far more about getting unprotected picks than he does any of the potential players coming back.
 
The Knicks TV guys close by saying they should do Rose/Randle for Westbrook and two picks from the Lakers... its the perfect deal according to them... says they may only get 1

I have bad news for you guys... yall gonna have to give a pick to do that deal.
 
nateboz said:
So Ainge asked for 7. Knicks offered 5 worst possible picks.
Ainge said no.
Just trade Mitchell to the Knicks for 6 picks like I've been saying since January.

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Have you missed all the talk about this not being about the number of picks?
 
Jingled said:
I still have a hard time believing Ainge pulls the trigger on a deal for less than 3 unprotected firsts. I think he cares far more about getting unprotected picks than he does any of the potential players coming back.
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I think so too... I just wonder if he got all three dudes (I think they all fit well with each other) maybe he relents on the unprotected picks. Maybe we do the 23/28 picks and then work in two swaps on 25/27 with the Minny picks. Maybe even 29 as well. Would allow them to move 24/26/30 next year around the draft.

I think Toppin and IQ are basically like 10 minute a night players if they stay on the Knicks and Don gets traded there. So I could see the Knicks saying eff it Grimes/IQ/Toppin plus the pick package with swaps and they get to keep a little dignity and pray that pick package is good enough to lure something in. The swaps give you the upside if they suck.

I'm kind of buying into Toppin and IQ having some hidden potential and Grimes is an obviously solid 3 and D option. Gives us some stuff to build something resembling a basketball team.
 
whatthe said:
2 unprotected, 2 garbage picks, 2 pick swaps (make one a super blind swap) and call it good. I don't care about RJ, give me Grimes. If NYK doesn't want to deal then call up Orlando or Charlotte.
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Ainge won't take a lesser deal for Mitchell than he got for Gobert nor does he really care for the players coming back I think. It's all about picks.
 
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