Jazz Defensive rankings

[Siro]

My hope would be that Burke/Lyles would get it done.

Trades do happen before the deadline. If their season should be aborted, it will be apparent before then. It's not a given that the trade would have to wait until February, so it could be closer to two full seasons with Hill.

And, of course, there is still the chance of him being willing to re-sign.

In terms of Exum, I think one year backing up Hill after he recovers from his injury would be just fine. You can't have young talent coming off the bench for too long like we did in the Corbin era.

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I don't think Treys would get it done. I assume Indiana would want players with high ceiling if they're blowing up the team. Lyles is a complete unknown (without much hype), and Burke might grow into a below average starter one day. I think they would want something better for Hill.

 

[Siro]

Trey Lyles is really going to have to turn it on and start showing more flashes of his potential for that trade to happen. It seems like the Pacers could probably do better for Hill than a backup PG and a border-line lottery talent PF.

This is the second time we've said very similar things within seconds of one another in the past few days. lol

 

[MDAV28]

Pacers were high on Trey Lyles coming into the draft. If Turner was off the board, notion was their guy was the hometown Lyles.

 

[spycam1]

I don't think Treys would get it done. I assume Indiana would want players with high ceiling if they're blowing up the team. Lyles is a complete unknown (without much hype), and Burke might grow into a below average starter one day. I think would want something better for Hill.

Possibly, but I'm not sure how much they can ask for considering his upcoming UFA status. Not to mention the fact that most teams are not in desperate need of a PG. I can't think of another team that could use Hill more than the Jazz.

Side note: I'm pretty sure there were rumors that Indiana liked Lyles during the draft process.

I think there's room to make a deal work, should Indy decide it's time to hit the reset button.

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[jaytulao]

Rudy wasn't the sole factor. Exum was disrupting on the perimeter with his long reach. I also thought there would be some drop-off. Neto has been better than expected defensively.

My sentiments too, hope exum comes back even better than before

 

[franklin]

Jazz are at 84.1 pts per 100 possessions allowed. Currently the Spurs are in second, more than 5 points per 100 possessions behind. Yes, the Jazz have played against 3 ****ty offenses, but the defense has been very good by any measure.

How does this make the ONE stat I pointed out any more useful?

 

[akirac73]

Cleveland (the second best ppg defensive team) is going to give up a 100 pts to the same pathetic Philadelphia team we held to 71 pts. Just saying...

 

[Hotdog]

I don't see Indiana wanting to blow up there team for to many young players. With Paul George there, they are gonna be thinking win now.

 

[Miggs]

Would you trade Burks, Hood, OKC 1st, our own 2016 1st and maybe a protected 2018 1st for George?

 

[MDAV28]

Would you trade Burks, Hood, OKC 1st, our own 2016 1st and maybe a protected 2018 1st for George?

No question. I'm convinced Hood is going to be a scorer, and a good one in this league, but that's a trade that DL should make 10/10. Imagine the lengeth of Exum, Hayward, George, Favors, Gobert. You'd be going in the complete opposite direction of the league with small ball and I think that it would work.

 

[JAZZGASM]

No question. I'm convinced Hood is going to be a scorer, and a good one in this league, but that's a trade that DL should make 10/10. Imagine the lengeth of Exum, Hayward, George, Favors, Gobert. You'd be going in the complete opposite direction of the league with small ball and I think that it would work.

At least 3 max players and the other two may not be far behind. Could we keep that group long term? It would be an amazing starting line up.

 

[akirac73]

After tonights games...

Jazz now also rank #1 in Opponent FG%: 37.2%
Minnesota fell out of the top spot in their loss to Portland.

 

[b_line]

No question. I'm convinced Hood is going to be a scorer, and a good one in this league, but that's a trade that DL should make 10/10. Imagine the lengeth of Exum, Hayward, George, Favors, Gobert. You'd be going in the complete opposite direction of the league with small ball and I think that it would work.

That lineup would probably be the best defensive lineup ever.

 

[GVC]

How does this make the ONE stat I pointed out any more useful?

I was mostly responding to your qualifier. The original stat doesn't only look good because the offense has been weak (which you overstate repeatedly); the defense has been very good.

 

[spycam1]

Would you trade Burks, Hood, OKC 1st, our own 2016 1st and maybe a protected 2018 1st for George?

Yes.

Assuming he gets back to form, he'd be the closest thing we would have to a go to scorer--something I still think we'll need to win a Championship. It will have to be addressed at some point. Right now, our best bet at a title is to do it in the same fashion as the 04 Pistons, which is possible, but I'd feel safer if we could add a go to guy to our stellar defense.

 

[fishonjazz]

Yes.

Assuming he gets back to form, he'd be the closest thing we would have to a go to scorer--something I still think we'll need to win a Championship. It will have to be addressed at some point. Right now, our best bet at a title is to do it in the same fashion as the 04 Pistons, which is possible, but I'd feel safer if we could add a go to guy to our stellar defense.

Not so sure that he would be a go to scorer any more than hayward, hood, or burks. I just looked up his numbers (scoring average, free throw attempts, field goal percentage, three point percentage, free throw percentage). Not sure he is much, if any, better than our own wing scorers.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Yes.

Assuming he gets back to form, he'd be the closest thing we would have to a go to scorer--something I still think we'll need to win a Championship. It will have to be addressed at some point. Right now, our best bet at a title is to do it in the same fashion as the 04 Pistons, which is possible, but I'd feel safer if we could add a go to guy to our stellar defense.

It's fun to dream but they are not going to give up on PG. I think they continue to try and build around him. They have him under contract for 2 more years after this one.

If we did a deal I'd try to retain Burks (a win now piece) Hood would have to be in the deal from their side. I'd send Lyles, Hood, draft picks (we have all of ours, GSW 2017, and OKC 2018)

 

[MDAV28]

Not so sure that he would be a go to scorer any more than hayward, hood, or burks. I just looked up his numbers (scoring average, free throw attempts, field goal percentage, three point percentage, free throw percentage). Not sure he is much, if any, better than our own wing scorers.

I actually think the case with Hayward v George is legitimate. Hayward has a little more playmaking while George is a better defender. As far as George v Burks, no question George is better go to scorer and 100x better all around player. Jury is still somewhat out on Hood but he does look very promising as somebody that could be the "go-to" scorer we need.

 

[framer]

No question. I'm convinced Hood is going to be a scorer, and a good one in this league, but that's a trade that DL should make 10/10. Imagine the lengeth of Exum, Hayward, George, Favors, Gobert. You'd be going in the complete opposite direction of the league with small ball and I think that it would work.

If you could field a lineup where Hayward was your weakest defender, It almost wouldn't matter how weak your offense was. Unless the other team could can 35 foot three pointers at a high rate, they are going to lose.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

Would you trade Burks, Hood, OKC 1st, our own 2016 1st and maybe a protected 2018 1st for George?

No!! First I think it's a it's somewhat over exaggerated that PG is a superstar. Not sure he's even better then Hayward. Hood, Burks + assets > George. Had Hayward Ben drafted by Indiana and PG by Utah Hayward might have been the allstar.