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Jazz Just Signed Trevor Booker According To Woj

PointGod_AlecBurks said:
Trevor Booker is a great signing, Now I'm not pissed about the Jarnell Stokes trade. Hes very nasty and tenacious, He always plays with a mean streak and also has great hands defensively for a forward.

He will also run the floor in transition, rebound and throw down plenty of thunderous dunks.
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More PGAB brilliance
 
NUMBERICA said:
Sorry. I'm not convinced that paying a MLE-sized deal for a player that might be the 5th-best big on a roster poised to miss the playoffs is particularly worth it. If the Jazz couldn't find another way to spend that $5 million in cap between now and next July, all they'd have to do is spend that as a roster bonus. Oh no.

If it comes out that the second-year is a team-option/minimally guaranteed, then this changes things a bit.
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Lmfao
 
Stifle Tower said:
Booker doesn't have range and he's undersized, but he plays with amazing effort and a bad *** attitude. I don't think he's a starter on a contender, but I'd love to see him as one of Utah's subs. He's playing about 20 mins/per, which I think is perfect given the energy he expends.
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Booker doesn't have range? He's a PF averaging 1 3PM per game so far (small sample size, I know). I don't think that I would say that Booker doesn't have range. Like Dala said, he's not a pick and pop guy, but he can hit the open outside shot, and that's valuable.
 
Hantlers said:
Booker doesn't have range? He's a PF averaging 1 3PM per game so far (small sample size, I know). I don't think that I would say that Booker doesn't have range. Like Dala said, he's not a pick and pop guy, but he can hit the open outside shot, and that's valuable.
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He was 1-10 before this season and he's 3-7 on his 3's thus far, but I wouldn't call him a threat to shoot corner 3's on a regular basis. His one 3-PT attempt against Phoenix was pretty ugly (and the other was a desperation shot, IIRC). His strength is definitely his inside game. Of course maybe if the PG and wings were hitting their 3's, it would be less important to have a PF who could put up 4-5 attempts/game.
 
Stifle Tower said:
He was 1-10 before this season and he's 3-7 on his 3's thus far, but I wouldn't call him a threat to shoot corner 3's. His strength is definitely his inside game. Of course maybe if the PG and wings were hitting their 3's, it would be less important to have a PF who could put up 4-5 attempts/game.
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Again, so far he has shown that he does have range. It has been a small sample size, but he has shown that he has range. We aren't discussing what his strength is, merely whether he has range or not. Don't try to change the argument.
 
Hantlers said:
Again, so far he has shown that he does have range. It has been a small sample size, but he has shown that he has range. We aren't discussing what his strength is, merely whether he has range or not. Don't try to change the argument.
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OK, I'll give you that in a very small sample size, he's now hit 3-7, which is very good. Let's see if he ends up at 35% or higher. Maybe instead of "range," which even Trey has, I should say he can not only reach the rim on his shot, but make them consistently. As I edited in my post, his one 3 PT attempt in the Phoenix game was pretty ugly. And IINM, the second could be excused because I think it was a heave as the shot-clock was expiring (unless I'm confusing it with another shot).

In any case, I think we can all agree he might be one of the steals of free agency: 7 pts and 5 rebounds in 22 mins was not overly impressive last season. He had better stats in his 2nd year. He's been much better in 3 games for the Jazz, though, so let's see if he can maintain that success. However, I don't see Booker all of a sudden making the leap to a great starter. He's better suited to being a force off the bench.
 
Stifle Tower said:
He was 1-10 before this season...
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Since he only attempted 10 in his first four years, it's probably safe to assume that most or all of those attempts were buzzer beaters, and that there's a good chance many of them were from quite deep. This was the case with Millsap before his Miami game. Everyone was citing his 3-pt performance prior to the game, but when I went back and checked only one or two of his 3s weren't taken at the end of the shot clock or quarter.
 
Just took a quick look at the game logs, and it looks like 9 of 10 of Booker's 3-point attempts in Washington were to beat the buzzer. 6 of 10 were from 30+ feet. In other words, that 1-10 statistic is 100% worthless.
 
GVC said:
Just took a quick look at the game logs, and it looks like 9 of 10 of Booker's 3-point attempts in Washington were to beat the buzzer. 6 of 10 were from 30+ feet. In other words, that 1-10 statistic is 100% worthless.
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Can't argue with that...nice research.
It will be interesting to see if Booker can maintain his quality 3pt %. Whether he does or not, there's no disagreement he was a good find and appears to be a big bargain at his contract price.
 
The thing I like about Booker 3's opposed to Kanter 3's, is that Booker can make defenses pay for not closing out properly with his dribble drive game. Even if Kanter became a pretty good 3pt shooter, I don't think he would ever be able to dribble past anyone on the perimeter.
 
Cy said:
The thing I like about Booker 3's opposed to Kanter 3's, is that Booker can make defenses pay for not closing out properly with his dribble drive game. Even if Kanter became a pretty good 3pt shooter, I don't think he would ever be able to dribble past anyone on the perimeter.
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Anyone can dribble past someone who is running at you. It's not like Booker beats his man when the defense has done a good job of closing out. Better 3pt shooter spreads the floor more, therefore is more valuable. If Kanter managed to shoot better from behind the arc, he would be far more valuable on offense than Booker.
 
Hekate said:
Anyone can dribble past someone who is running at you. It's not like Booker beats his man when the defense has done a good job of closing out. Better 3pt shooter spreads the floor more, therefore is more valuable. If Kanter managed to shoot better from behind the arc, he would be far more valuable on offense than Booker.
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Lol. Booker crossed some dude over in the preseason. He is better than Kanter. It's clear as day. I don't care if Kanter is hitting all his shots, the guy can't play defense and Booker can.
 
Cy said:
Lol. Booker crossed some dude over in the preseason. He is better than Kanter. It's clear as day. I don't care if Kanter is hitting all his shots, the guy can't play defense and Booker can.
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That's why I said he would be more valuable on offense and not overall. I thought you would understand that since I haven't said anything about who is better at defense or the better player at all. I guess I was wrong.

My argument boils down to better 3pt shooter is much more valuable that average 3pt shooter who can sometimes dribble past his defender who runs at him. Be it Enes or Trevor.
 
Hekate said:
If Kanter managed to shoot better from behind the arc, he would be far more valuable on offense than Booker.
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Booker also moves the ball very well.

Last night, Booker had a mismatch down low against IIRC Isaiah Thomas. Trey mase the post entry pass, at which point Trey's man (who must have been a big) immediately moved to double on Booker. Booker made a touch pass (i.e. without even catching the pass)right back out to Trey, which got the defense moving more. I think Trey swung the ball to Gordo, who may have put up a 3. The touch pass was pretty.
 
GVC said:
Booker also moves the ball very well.

Last night, Booker had a mismatch down low against IIRC Isaiah Thomas. Trey mase the post entry pass, at which point Trey's man (who must have been a big) immediately moved to double on Booker. Booker made a touch pass (i.e. without even catching the pass)right back out to Trey, which got the defense moving more. I think Trey swung the ball to Gordo, who may have put up a 3. The touch pass was pretty.
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I remember that play.
You got it exactly right and it was beautiful
 
GVC said:
Booker also moves the ball very well.

Last night, Booker had a mismatch down low against IIRC Isaiah Thomas. Trey mase the post entry pass, at which point Trey's man (who must have been a big) immediately moved to double on Booker. Booker made a touch pass (i.e. without even catching the pass)right back out to Trey, which got the defense moving more. I think Trey swung the ball to Gordo, who may have put up a 3. The touch pass was pretty.
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Yes that was a nice pass by Booker to Trey. It was Hood that got the pass from Trey and his missed the open 3-pointer from straightaway.
 
Hekate said:
Anyone can dribble past someone who is running at you. It's not like Booker beats his man when the defense has done a good job of closing out. Better 3pt shooter spreads the floor more, therefore is more valuable. If Kanter managed to shoot better from behind the arc, he would be far more valuable on offense than Booker.
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Yes, anyone can, but Booker also can beat his man off the dribble when guarded on the perimeter. He's much quicker than most of the 4's in the league, and that includes Millsap. In fact, he's as quick as many 3's.
 
Hekate said:
Anyone can dribble past someone who is running at you. It's not like Booker beats his man when the defense has done a good job of closing out. Better 3pt shooter spreads the floor more, therefore is more valuable. If Kanter managed to shoot better from behind the arc, he would be far more valuable on offense than Booker.
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Booker passes better, shoots better an is not far behind on finishing down low. I don't see how even if Kanter lights it up from outside he is more valuable on either end of the floor than Booker. At least right now. I don't mind Kanter starting for now. I like Booker's skill set with Rudy off of the bench. But if Kanter wants more minutes then he better start playing far better than he is. And that is on both ends of the floor.
 
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