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Jazz make an offer to Josh Howard

Well, if Corbin and KOC wanted to get the word out to NBA players that the culture has changed inside Utah Jazz, Tinsley & Howard will do the trick.

Or maybe KOC secretly hates Coach Corbin and wants to see him fail.

By far the best comment about Howard from Brian T. Smith @ SLTrib :

Monroe_SA but they only have 3.2 weed in Utah RT @tribjazz #UtahJazz negotiations ongoing with free agent Josh Howard
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The Thriller said:
So again, I ask the question... Why?

In the short term? Maybe we get a few W's and maybe... Just maybe... sneak into the playoffs to only be swept by someone like the Lakers. Cool! Since that was so fun a few years ago!

In the long term? We lose valuable minutes for our younger players and draft picks.

To me, the short term losses are offset by the long term gains by sticking with this youth movement. Lets not half *** it here. Lets continue to go full speed rebuilding through the draft.

Play Gordy, Kanter, Burks, Favors, etc at least 20+ minutes. See what they can do.

They develop.

If our team ends up winning, that's great for their development. Helps us to see where we're really at.

If our team ends up sucking, that's great for our team's development. We'll see where we're really at and rebuild using the lotto picks we'll get for sucking. Move Memo and other pieces to obtain more assets.

Have we learned nothing from OKC?

We're not Miami. No one of real value is going to "bring" their talents to SLC's westside. Might as well draft it and hope for the best.
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So just give the rookies minutes just cause? Without having to earn them?

Make them earn it. Howard will push Hayward at the very least, and knowing how competitive G is he'll get after it.

Tinsley is a 3rd PG, no threat to any of our youngins minutes.

Injuries will happen and we'll need players to fill in the gaps. If anything, players like Howard will keep things competitive within the team. That's a smart way to motivate young, inexperienced players. Otherwise you get fat, lazy, entitled rooks who think they deserve to play when they don't.
 
BabyPeterzz said:
So just give the rookies minutes just cause? Without having to earn them?

Make them earn it. Howard will push Hayward at the very least, and knowing how competitive G is he'll get after it.

Tinsley is a 3rd PG, no threat to any of our youngins minutes.

Injuries will happen and we'll need players to fill in the gaps. If anything, players like Howard will keep things competitive within the team. That's a smart way to motivate young, inexperienced players. Otherwise you get fat, lazy, entitled rooks who think they deserve to play when they don't.
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Yep, it has been Utah's thing for a while now to sign washed up, older FA no one else really wants and be able to squeeze the last few drops of productivity from them.
 
By the way i have heard nothing but good things about Tinsley since his stint in the D league. Howard, I haven't heard much from, but he looks like filler, just like Tinsley.
 
I have no problem with either Tins or Howard. Some experience on this team is a good thing. Simply build some character issues into the contracts. I am guessing there were clear stipulations with each contract. This likely means that AK said no or wanted too much.
 
gomretat said:
This likely means that AK said no or wanted too much.
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Reportedly, Marc Fleisher is starting negotiations at 4 yrs $40 million. Buh-bye.

I'm not vehemently against signing Howard (I'd prefer not to) but if we do sign him it better not be for more than 2 years (which could be a sticking point IMO).
 
Funny how we complain when they don't seem to be doing anything and then we turn around and complain when they do offer a FA contract.
 
For all we know, Howard's matured some as he's aged and is willing to come off the bench. If that's the case and the financial terms make sense for us as an organization, I like it. If he's regained his form, he, or Miles to a lesser degree, could be a great piece to dangle before the deadline. So could Watson or Tinsley for that matter. Basically, we may be stockpiling some humble assets that when packaged could net us something of far greater value.
 
MDAV28 said:
I would rather have Shawne Williams
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Good Hell.... You don't know what you want. Who in their right mind would want Shawne Williams over Howard. What has Williams ever done?

If healthy, and if his head is on straight, he can help a team win games. You've gone and lost your mind.
 
I assume he's been vetted by Jazz brass. I'm glad they'd add a former All-Star for so little. I'm going to miss AK, though. To other points about cutting into younger players time, they need to beat the best players at that position and EARN their spot or ride the pine. If they can't handle the competition in practice, how will they handle the Lakers?
 
Thee jazz fan said:
Good Hell.... You don't know what you want. Who in their right mind would want Shawne Williams over Howard. What has Williams ever done?

If healthy, and if his head is on straight, he can help a team win games. You've gone and lost your mind.
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Because we aren't building this team on what players have done. We are building it on what they can and will be able to do in the future.

If character isn't a factor, gimme Williams as a decent role player who can spread the floor on a 2-year contract over a washed-up Howard with bad knees. Don't think Jazz are the right team to take a gamble on either really, but I would take Williams between the 2.
 
I may be wrong, but seems like I read that J Howard and D Harris are very good friends.
If so can understand Howard wanting to team up with Harris again.
If so Howard might be willing to sign a cheaper deal with Jazz.
 
Considering the original rumors were that Howard wanted to wait to see where Nene was going to end up, it makes sense that he isn't signing the offer.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
Good Hell.... You don't know what you want.
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Uhh. Apparently he does.

Thee jazz fan said:
Who in their right mind would want Shawne Williams over Howard. What has Williams ever done?
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Hit shots at a very impressive clip and gone about his business. Who in their right mind wants a washed up has-been burnout headcase with bad knees?

Thee jazz fan said:
If healthy, and if his head is on straight, he can help a team win games. You've gone and lost your mind.
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He hasn't been healthy in two years and his head has never been on straight. You are in no place to pass judgment.
 
slc said:
I may be wrong, but seems like I read that J Howard and D Harris are very good friends.
If so can understand Howard wanting to team up with Harris again.
If so Howard might be willing to sign a cheaper deal with Jazz.
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Yeah because that happens so often.
 
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