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TICC said:
9'3.5'' standing reach does not constitute an undersized center (you don't defend with the top of your head, after all). Aldrich has all the size he needs to be a true 5 in the NBA.
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As a person that likes Aldrich, I'll admit there are concerns about him, like any prospect the Jazz will pick #9 (albeit fewer than other prospects I would say). But I agree, size/wingspan isn't even close to a concern for Aldrich. That's actually considered a strength of his.
 
BENTLEY said:
"You are talking about a great player with no tattoos who doesn't drink or party. He's just a good kid."

Buck also doesn't have a tattoo, but said his reasoning - fear of his father's reaction - is different than Whiteside's lack of body ink. Buck said that Whiteside had a more mature rationalization.

"He told me, 'I like the way God made my body,'" Buck said. "Isn't that something? He doesn't do anything bad off the court; he doesn't have any tattoos or earrings; he doesn't drink or chase women, but he has questionable character?"
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Wow! That ought to move him up to the top of cj's draft board.

I admit I'm all over the map with this one. Hassan will either be a Camby-like force or a complete bust. If he becomes the former, we're going to be kicking ourselves for the next 10 years, wondering "what if" and saying we could have picked up a 16 pt/per scorer like Babbitt by just trading AK's expiring. If we take him and he's a bust, then the window shuts and Deron probably leaves in 3 years.

OK, I'm in. No tats, no earrings, no partying: this kid would be o.k. living in Utah (just keep him away from Coleman's ex). Draft him and make sure he hangs with Millsap, Matthews and Williams. Keep him far, far way from Fesgoofball.

No way does Hassan last into the 20's. We'd need to take him at #9. Maybe he slips to 14/15, but I wouldn't risk it.
 
After that workout and interview there is no way the Jazz will draft him. We already have two projects at center.
 
Jazz at C:

Memo - injured, is good there but more comfortable at PF.
Koufos - sucks, more suited to PF - have him play backup minutes to both Millsap and AK.
Fes - He's a RFA. He may not be back. I hope he is even if he is a project. (as long as the price is right)

I think the Jazz definitely have a need here. It'd be nice if they could get more picks in this year's draft. There appear to be some pretty good players.
 
BENTLEY said:
Jazz at C:

Memo - injured, is good there but more comfortable at PF.
Koufos - sucks, more suited to PF - have him play backup minutes to both Millsap and AK.
Fes - He's a RFA. He may not be back. I hope he is even if he is a project. (as long as the price is right)

I think the Jazz definitely have a need here. It'd be nice if they could get more picks in this year's draft. There appear to be some pretty good players.
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The Jazz, to me, may also have a need at the wings. Wes and CJ are nice. I like them both but are the two together starters on a championship caliber team? Unlikely. And AK's contract is up at the end of the year.
 
In no particular order (not including second draft nor players projected higher than #9):

Aldrich - maybe
Whiteside
Babbitt
George

And I'm reading good things about Al-Farouq
 
KrazeeEyezKilla said:
The Jazz, to me, may also have a need at the wings. Wes and CJ are nice. I like them both but are the two together starters on a championship caliber team? Unlikely. And AK's contract is up at the end of the year.
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Yeah, I still like AK, but if trading him can get them another first round pick I'd like to grab one of the potentially really good tall wings: Babbitt, George, Al-Farouq, Johnson?
 
KrazeeEyezKilla said:
Yes. Both have started NBA games and shown great signs at points, including in the playoffs for Fes. What are you basing Whiteside on? The rigors of a Conference USA schedule?
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A valid point in that Whiteside is still a mere college player.

However, both Kosta and Fess have proven to me that they don't belong in the league. Especially Kosta.

Might as well take a gamble on an athletic player that has shown great promise in college.
 
The Thriller said:
A valid point in that Whiteside is still a mere college player.

However, both Kosta and Fess have proven to me that they don't belong in the league. Especially Kosta.

Might as well take a gamble on an athletic player that has shown great promise in college.
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I'd rather draft Babbitt in the 1st and take a big or bigs like Pittman who played legit competition, has shown he can work his *** off to get into shape, and has an NBA ready body and size, or Jeff Foote in the 2nd round.
 
I watched that Whiteside video--ouch. He does have nice touch on his jumpshot and he is big and will probably grow bigger. but he is raw--Fess looks more comfortable with his back to the basket. No post moves, drops teh ball low, throws the ball at the rim just hoping it will go in. Double team confused him, he can dunk and he didn't drop passes. On defense marshall played a zone so Whitesied didn't really body up on anyone, the one time he did the double team came quickly to help him. His blocks came on help but he does elevate and block shots.

My impression is that he MIGHT be an NBA player--someday, but it is going to be 2 or 3 years. He might be Kwame Brown if he works hard.

When Marshall played NC Whiteside went 3-8, 4 rebounds, 3 blocks, 7 points.

Ed Davis had 7-14, 10 rebounds, 3 blocks, and 19 points.
 
The Thriller said:
You think Fess and Kosta have much upside? What are you basing this on, Flash games?
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I think Fess does have more upside due to his competitiveness and athleticism for his size. But even if he does, no one else really qualifies as athletic length on the team who can play both ends of the floor. I think the Jazz would like to have a player who can swing between the PF an C, like Cliff Robinson did for the Blazers in the 90s. I also don't think Okur can guard half the PFs in the league. To be honest, I'm not sure Millsap can guard the longer ones either, at least not without picking up fouls.
 
Might be a player some day isn't good enough. Whiteside has the biggest chance of being a bust, and there are plenty of other bigs in this draft worth a look. According to Draftexpress at #9 we have available Aldrich, Davis and Patterson, then there are the swingmen. Don't expect George to be available #9 on dd.
 
I do think Xavier Henry could be in the Jazz's draft picture more than people are talking about. Although George has more upside, Henry would be good in the back court with D. Will also. Henry should be a good pro.

I'm still just so-so on Babbit. Although he's a good athlete, I'm wondering about his quickness, versatility and ability to play inside.

No matter what, the Jazz will get a good player. I still don't think they'll settle for Aldrich or Udoh. I also don't think Monroe is a sure thing at all. Patterson actually looks better to me than those guys.
 
Catchall said:
I do think Xavier Henry could be in the Jazz's draft picture more than people are talking about. Although George has more upside, Henry would be good in the back court with D. Will also. Henry should be a good pro.

I'm still just so-so on Babbit. Although he's a good athlete, I'm wondering about his quickness, versatility and ability to play inside.

No matter what, the Jazz will get a good player. I still don't think they'll settle for Aldrich or Udoh. I also don't think Monroe is a sure thing at all. Patterson actually looks better to me than those guys.
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I have to agree on these points

George would struggle in a disciplined system a la Deshawn Steveson. He would become a better player but it would take time.

Henry is would be able to pick things up quickly and he looks like he has a fairly mature game.

I don't like Babbit on the Jazz. There is just something about him that makes me think he will be a bench scorer and not a star.

Aldrich would be okay. A role playing big man. The mythical defensive center. I just wonder if he would be outclassed against Howard and the Lakers.

Udoh will probably be a good player somewhere but I don't think at his size 6'9" he would make a very good fit here.

I see Patterson being a more successful pro but again he isn't a good fit here.

I don't want any part of Monroe.

I would be tempted to bring whiteside in again and see if he does better and has a better interview. If he is emotionally immature that is one thing. If he can't hack it at this level that is something else.
 
I also want no part of Monroe.

Regarding Xavier Henry - draftexpress list his best case scenario as "James Posey." -- Really? That doesn't sound like it would be worth the 9th pick.
 
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