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Jazz select Grayson Allen at 21

No, but I think the premise is that the Jazz had Allen as #3 on their board if they stay at #21. There's simply no way that Allen was #3 on their Big Board after Luca Doncic and Miles Bridges.

I think that’s #3 on guys they thought they could realistically thought they could draft if they didn’t trade up. I’m 100% positive they didn’t have him higher then a miles bridges.


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If the Jazz are serious about doing anything in free agency, they can't realistically keep both (maybe even either). Exum isn't a PG, neither are threats to make anything but catch-and-shoot or uncontested 3s (at best).

He's a guard (or wing) I've heard DL declare... he says hes a pg. You are correct though it will be either Ricky or Exum in 2019 if we use our space.
 
Yes I did jump to some conclusions there. I retract the starting bit, as it is possible to get 30+ mpg from the bench.

Please enlighten me with your narrative, because clearly I am off on how you think Handsy will do this his rookie year.

I did some math to see what it would take to have those numbers and break DM's rookie 3pt makes record.
He will have to shoot 459 threes to make 188 at a 41% clip. If he plays all 82, that would be 5.59 3pt shots per game. Not unheard of, DM shot 7 per game.
If Grayson takes 50% of his shots from 3, he would have to shoot 67% from 2 in order to have a 54% overall percentage.
He would be taking 11.19 shots per game. He would have to take .73 free throws per game.
He would have 6.88 ppg on 3's, 7.51 ppg on 2's, and .62 ppg from free throws, to get to the 15ppg average.

I would love it if he had this type of year. I'm skeptical though.

I post all this crap, to show I didn't jump to conclusions, they are realistic and based on something called math. There was not much in the way of jumping, but more in the way of calculating.

You threw out some numbers, to get there, Grayson will have to play some serious minutes, and shoot quite a bit, and play every game.

Love it. You nailed almost exactly what I was thinking that time.

I had him at 425 shot attempts at 44% and closer to 60% of his shots from 3. Everything else is totally within reason imo with 8-12spg and 15-22mpg.

Fact is, we have no one like him outside of DM. Quin is going to the lab and will draw up some great stuff for Allen.
 
I’m still really pissed we traded Vince Edwards.

6’8” with a 7’0” wingspan and chiseled frame and ability to defend 2-4. 39.2% from three over four years...and that’s with just 32.6% as a frosh. 9.4 rebounds per 40 last year. 4.1 assists (and just 1.7 turnovers) per 40 over his four years there. 82% from the line. Tough as ****. Feel like he could be a better Crowder given what I see as likely better shooting. Why not have the cheap contract and renounce JJ or Sef or both.

We don't need that type of player and don't have a roster spot... oh well okay neither of those are true, but at least we didn't trade him for just cash... ****... well at least we didn't trade him to the team that beat us in the playoffs... oh man... come on!
 
Love it. You nailed almost exactly what I was thinking that time.

I had him at 425 shot attempts at 44% and closer to 60% of his shots from 3. Everything else is totally within reason imo with 8-12spg and 15-22mpg.

Fact is, we have no one like him outside of DM. Quin is going to the lab and will draw up some great stuff for Allen.
You think he's going to shoot shots from a significantly longer distance, against NBA defenders, AND convert better than he has in his entire life?

Mind if I scoff? Cuz that's silly. And that's not a diss to Allen, those numbers are just outrageous.
 
We don't need that type of player and don't have a roster spot... oh well okay neither of those are true, but at least we didn't trade him for just cash... ****... well at least we didn't trade him to the team that beat us in the playoffs... oh man... come on!
Let the hate flow through you...
 
You think he's going to shoot shots from a significantly longer distance, against NBA defenders, AND convert better than he has in his entire life?

Mind if I scoff? Cuz that's silly. And that's not a diss to Allen, those numbers are just outrageous.

I predict he will have more open looks than he's ever seen and has a quick trigger. He is also playing with the best screen setter in the NBA and has a mad scientist for a coach.
 
I'm very tempted to change my name to "Cash Considerations" and be salty AF all the time... like a Hollywood Hogan heel turn.
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Me, right.

Am I the only person that remembers The Disciple? Oh. Well, ****.
 
So let me get this straight:

- Donovan suggested and supports the pick
- DL made and is excited about the pick
- Gobert supports the pick
- Quin used his contacts to confirm everything about the pick and also supports it.

And some of you guys still want to bash the kid without seeing him play for us first? The negativity here is sad.


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