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Jimmy Butler's Day off - Jazz @ Timberbulls 10/31/2018 6 pm MST

Didn't read the whole thread but are we just going to act like Ingles hasn't been doing his best turnover prone version of Ricky impersonation the past few games

Every time I hear Locke say he doesn't even care about TOs I want to hurl.

Ingles has been frustrating on the TOs
 
Free throws killed us. In the last few minutes, Gobert missed a few, Crowder missed and I think Exum missed.

I love the "team" of this roster but blatant weaknesses of Favors and Rubio get exposed in games like this. They just aren't complete players or have an elite skill. In today's game, you either have to be a specialist or be complete.

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Elan - you are right - we would probably have to add a first or take back Mahinmi to get Porter. I would do it.

Burks, Thabo, Udoh, Bradley, our 2019 1st and give them their 2021 2nd back
for
Otto Porter

Wiz get out of Porter's contract and the luxury. We get a really good player to start at SF/PF next to Joe.

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Rose was absolutely amazing. Seeing him sob at the end was almost worth this loss. What a powerful, emotional moment. Their team and the fans showing him all that love was a life-affirming moment.

Stats-wise, this game was close. We were ahead in several key areas. The biggest difference was they shot 58% FG to our 49%. Rose and Towns just had excellent games. The D on Rose(especially Dante) was good, he just was unstoppable.

http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=401070788

Favors could have been better, Rubio could have been better. Don could have been in the game at the end. And Rudy could have made a few more FT and not made that horrible post up shot. I was hoping he'd kick out to Dante for 3. Dante, Crowder, Rudy and Don had good games. Would have been nice to see Jingles drain 3's(1-6 from 3PT) and Rubio and Favors do better.

To me the best thing about last night was Dante. He was super aggressive and played excellent defense. He is a lock-down defender on anyone but Rose on one night.

We lost a road game to a team playing out of their skulls, not worried about it. Worried about Don's hammy though, we would have definitely won this game if we had him the last 5 min.

Great analysis. It really puts things into perspective. We didn't play all that well as a whole and we still only lost by 3 on the road to a team who made the playoffs last year and had a player who had a career best performance. Not terrible all things considered. Imagine what happens if we actually played well in that game.

I don't like losing. And I'm not impressed that this team doesn't seem to be clicking yet. I expected a strong start to the season. However I think some fans are overreacting a bit (as fans tend to do it's natural).

I have faith we'll be alright. We've been in worse spots. Just last season in fact. This team will bounce back.
 
The Jazz lost because they missed too many FTs and were unable to stop Derrick Rose. I didn't watch the game but where was DM. Why was Gobert taking shots down the stretch? This is a tough loss but not surprising since the Wolves were motivated to show they can win without Butler. I was frustrated with the turnovers. I really didn't understand why Ricky was playing down the stretch considering how he played.
 
I know Quin is the genius and I trust him but I wasn't sure why Rubio was on the floor during that last possession.

I was hoping Niang who is hitting at 57% from 3 was going to get a chance to perform in the clutch.

Should have run a play for Niang. Either X or Rubio had to run the play with Ingles, Grayson, Niang, Crowder in as shooters.
 
Just realized DM was hurt. Sorry. Again I didn't see the game. Just going off box scores and play by play.
 
Rudy missed too many free throws. On that second to last possession when he tried his post move and left hook I agree with most people that it was a bad decision. I will say however that it was actually a nice looking move and nice looking shot and it barely missed. I do like that he had the confidence to go ahead and try to be the man and take a game winning type shot with DM sidelined. Rudy is clearly an alpha and thinks like one. I love that about him.
Oh and he was amazing again tonight despite those mistakes.
Rudy last night: 33 minutes, 22 points (9-12 from the field. 75%), 13 rebounds, 3 assists, 3 blocks, 1 steal, and only 1 turnover. Oh and he was by far the highest +/- on the the team with a +13. In a game we lost by 3 a +13 is huge. He is playing like an all star consistently each game.

Agree. And the L and Rudys miss dont bother me. Its the sort of thing that will burn inside him and we'll all benefit longterm.
 
Cy - I think the reactions are valid. We have had 4 games where we have given up 111 or more points. We don't have any important injuries so there is no blame there. Quin doesn't have a grasp on rotations because our PF and PG situation is a mess.

There is no reason to panic, but there is definitely room to criticize or question what we have going on. We look unorganized when our biggest strength from last year was continuity.

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Elan - you are right - we would probably have to add a first or take back Mahinmi to get Porter. I would do it.

Burks, Thabo, Udoh, Bradley, our 2019 1st and give them their 2021 2nd back
for
Otto Porter

Wiz get out of Porter's contract and the luxury. We get a really good player to start at SF/PF next to Joe.

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First off. Exum didnt miss a late FT.

Secondly. That trade is laughable, you need to be more realistic you cant just unload all our trash, add a 1st and expect to get a player back.

Favs + Burks + 2019 1st + 2020 1st
For
Otto Porter

We shouldnt take bad contracts just add extra picks.

Edit:

Theyll need those 1st to either add youth or to move off that Wall contract.
 
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We didn’t get great performances from some of our key guys. Joe has seemed extra slow lately.

I’m going to wait until the 15 game mark to make definitive judgements but I’m definitely leaning in the direction of Ricky is too limited to be our starting point guard.

Niang needs to play more... stupid in bounds pass last night but continued his hot streak.

Wiggins and Rose turning into Klay and Steph last night is a one night fluke... sucks to be on the other end of it but on to the next one.
 
We may need to limit Ingles to 28mins. He has a history of garbage stretches when he plays big minutes. He has airballed and missed by big big margins the last 3 games.
 
Cy - I think the reactions are valid. We have had 4 games where we have given up 111 or more points. We don't have any important injuries so there is no blame there. Quin doesn't have a grasp on rotations because our PF and PG situation is a mess.

There is no reason to panic, but there is definitely room to criticize or question what we have going on. We look unorganized when our biggest strength from last year was continuity.

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I thought we did some pretty good things last night just missed some shots and they made some. I think we have the answers at PF but Favs was needed last night. Taj is an mfer to box out and needs a big... towns too.

I think Ricky got benched last night... then DM got hurt. PG is our biggest position holding us back imo... it’s still early but I don’t love the Rubio roller coaster... if he doesn’t improve his minutes shrink... Exum would have played more than him had Ricky not come back in for DM.
 
First off. Exum didnt miss a late FT.

Secondly. That trade is laughable, you need to be more realistic you cant just unload all our trash, add a 1st and expect to get a player back.

Favs + Burks + 2019 1st + 2020 1st
For
Otto Porter

We shouldnt take bad contracts just add extra picks.

Edit:

Theyll need those 1st to either add youth or to move off that Wall contract.

Exum was 4-4 FT in the clutch and 5-6 overall.
 
I thought we did some pretty good things last night just missed some shots and they made some. I think we have the answers at PF but Favs was needed last night. Taj is an mfer to box out and needs a big... towns too.

I think Ricky got benched last night... then DM got hurt. PG is our biggest position holding us back imo... it’s still early but I don’t love the Rubio roller coaster... if he doesn’t improve his minutes shrink... Exum would have played more than him had Ricky not come back in for DM.

I know it happened but how on earth is Rubio EVER a suitable replacement for Don?
 
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