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Jimmy Butler's Day off - Jazz @ Timberbulls 10/31/2018 6 pm MST

Handlogten's Heros said:
We didn’t get great performances from some of our key guys. Joe has seemed extra slow lately.

I’m going to wait until the 15 game mark to make definitive judgements but I’m definitely leaning in the direction of Ricky is too limited to be our starting point guard.

Niang needs to play more... stupid in bounds pass last night but continued his hot streak.

Wiggins and Rose turning into Klay and Steph last night is a one night fluke... sucks to be on the other end of it but on to the next one.
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Joe is not himself. Seems like he's battling a cold or something. Did you see him during the timeout at crunch time? He looked dazed.
 
LoPo said:
Cy - I think the reactions are valid. We have had 4 games where we have given up 111 or more points. We don't have any important injuries so there is no blame there. Quin doesn't have a grasp on rotations because our PF and PG situation is a mess.

There is no reason to panic, but there is definitely room to criticize or question what we have going on. We look unorganized when our biggest strength from last year was continuity.

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They arent valid at all.

The Jazz lost a game at the end of a 9 day road trip that they went 3-1 on. Nothing is a mess.
 
The entier league is giving up a **** ton of points because everyone in the league is playing faster and because of the freedom of movement changes. Even after that bad game, the Jazz are still 8th overall in defensive rating despite playing the Rockets, Wolves, and Warriors who were all in the top 5 in offensive rating last year. The Warriors are #1 in rating this year by a large margin.
 
The PF rotation is easily one of the strengths of the team right now, so you are clearly just talking out your ***.
 
I have faith in the team to sort it out, but without the Memphis game where they destroyed our offense and controlled the game, our defense has been an issue.

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Handlogten's Heros said:
We didn’t get great performances from some of our key guys. Joe has seemed extra slow lately.

I’m going to wait until the 15 game mark to make definitive judgements but I’m definitely leaning in the direction of Ricky is too limited to be our starting point guard.

Niang needs to play more... stupid in bounds pass last night but continued his hot streak.

Wiggins and Rose turning into Klay and Steph last night is a one night fluke... sucks to be on the other end of it but on to the next one.
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It's basically impossible to play Niang more if Crowder is playing well unless Quin decides to play them togther. Crowder also offers a hustle/rebounding/toughness presence that is really important. Niang isnt a guy who comes up with 50/50 balls and Crowder is.

The entire team looked like they had been on the road for 9 days, cuz that's what had happened.
 
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Handlogten's Heros said:
I thought we did some pretty good things last night just missed some shots and they made some. I think we have the answers at PF but Favs was needed last night. Taj is an mfer to box out and needs a big... towns too.

I think Ricky got benched last night... then DM got hurt. PG is our biggest position holding us back imo... it’s still early but I don’t love the Rubio roller coaster... if he doesn’t improve his minutes shrink... Exum would have played more than him had Ricky not come back in for DM.
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The problem is that Exum isnt good enough in half-court situations and the high outcome possibility of Rubio is better than that of Exum. Exum getting his game tying shot blocked from a mile away when I think any other perimeter player on our team could have gotten the shot off was a bit of an example.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
The problem is that Exum isnt good enough in half-court situations and the high outcome possibility of Rubio is better than that of Exum. Exum getting his game tying shot blocked from a mile away when I think any other perimeter player on our team could have gotten the shot off was a bit of an example.
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Lmao. And you call others takes ridiculous. The nerve.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
The problem is that Exum isnt good enough in half-court situations and the high outcome possibility of Rubio is better than that of Exum. Exum getting his game tying shot blocked from a mile away when I think any other perimeter player on our team could have gotten the shot off was a bit of an example.
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Exum had a quick release and he had to take that shot with the shot clock where it was. The problem is that his release is low and he doesn't have much arc and DRose had his 2011 hops and quickness.
 
elan_prodigy said:
Lmao. And you call others takes ridiculous. The nerve.
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Exum is great when he pushes the ball in transition and puts pressure on a scrambling defense. He just isnt good in half-court offense and the upper-bound of what Rubio is capable of is just better.

The upper-bound of Exum (that he has shown) is a change of pace guard who is great in transition and finishes at the rim. We've gotten the first part, but not the 2nd part as Exum's paint finishing has been below expected.
 
elan_prodigy said:
Should have run a play for Niang. Either X or Rubio had to run the play with Ingles, Grayson, Niang, Crowder in as shooters.
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This

Not as disappointed since it was a road game and the dude with a grim reaper tat goes off for a career high on Halloween.

Really though why isn't your best 3 point shooters in the game for the last possession when you desperately need a 3?
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Exum is great when he pushes the ball in transition and puts pressure on a scrambling defense. He just isnt good in half-court offense and the upper-bound of what Rubio is capable of is just better.

The upper-bound of Exum (that he has shown) is a change of pace guard who is great in transition and finishes at the rim. We've gotten the first part, but not the 2nd part as Exum's paint finishing has been below expected.
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Exum has the ultimate tool to beat half court defenses, his ability to get past his man. When he beats his man he collapses the defense then its an easy kick out. Sure he has a lot to improve, mainly finishing and PnR play but he wont develop those skills without minutes.

He needs to start playing with Rudy, DM, Niang etc not ****ing Ekpe Udoh.
 
We can sugar coat all we want, but we might not beat Houston if Harden doesn't go out. We struggled to beat Sacramento. We beat NOLA because AD was out. Dallas is not a good team.

We are out of rhythm. We are trying to play 10-11 guys because our options at PG and PF are playing like crap. We can't be loyal to a fault. Either Rubio or Favors figure it out or we play others.

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elan_prodigy said:
We may need to limit Ingles to 28mins. He has a history of garbage stretches when he plays big minutes. He has airballed and missed by big big margins the last 3 games.
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No way dude, without Joe we'd started the season 0 - whatever, there's been multiple times he's the only dude with a pulse.
 
LoPo said:
We can sugar coat all we want, but we might not beat Houston if Harden doesn't go out. We struggled to beat Sacramento. We beat NOLA because AD was out. Dallas is not a good team.

We are out of rhythm. We are trying to play 10-11 guys because our options at PG and PF are playing like crap. We can't be loyal to a fault. Either Rubio or Favors figure it out or we play others.

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Breathe. The Jazz went 3-1 on a road trip, playing some good teams (yes, they're still good teams). The Jazz are better than fine.
 
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