Kirelenko in Trade talks!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I did. It looked like he hired Oliver Miller's nutritionist.
Twin Towers
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BY the way everyone. Denver cannot ship out only 17 Million and bring back 21-22 Million. They need to trade someone else to make this work. The deal has not been fully reported yet.
Archie Moses
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Who knows if it's a giveaway though? I'm sure the Jazz have found AK's market value and Diaw was probably the best they could get. Do I like the move? No, unless we got a first round from Charlotte. But I still don't think AK is a contender difference maker. Yeah, he'll help you win games, but not a championship. Especially in the down-spin of his career.
So how is it deemed fair by all parties that the Nets get Melo AND Augustin (sp?) while we lose one of our best talents, our massive expiring, our best overall defender, our second-best playmaker, and our most versatile player for Boris 15%-body-fat Diaw and Quinton I'm-lucky-to-get-guaranteed-contracts-at-this-stage Ross when we already probably have TOO much depth?
At least get Augustin or a pick, Jazz, or you're officially back to being retarded again. Even though, already, this dump could've been performed much earlier for much, much bigger savings and this is literally the worst package I've ever heard of for AK.
At least get Augustin or a pick, Jazz, or you're officially back to being retarded again. Even though, already, this dump could've been performed much earlier for much, much bigger savings and this is literally the worst package I've ever heard of for AK.
Magic Spray
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I just did the championship math after reading your equation (J + K = 0c.). You are making the argument to trade Kirilenko, you realize that.
A fair point. There's no benefit in doing it now vs. doing it in February.
margodydek
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Don't love the trade, but it makes sense. Not sure if people remember, but minus a 15-20 game stretch last year, AK has been abismal that past few years. It's been at least 3-4 years since you could call him a "lockdown" defender, and I'm sure everyone else on here would collectively cringe when he'd jack up a jumpshot (not just a 3, but any jumpshot). I don't love Diaw, but it will be nice to have another player big that can shoot. Just hope he no longer looks like the Pillsbury Diawboy as he did during the World Championships.
Twin Towers
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You can't look at what other teams get. That is not how 4 team trades work.
"You can't say this team got more talent than we did"
Its only about what you give and what you get. If your mad about that than that is fine but Diaw is still a good player. But he won't get playing time on this team to even deserve half of his contract. I understand the luxury tax savings to dump AK but we might as well dump AK for an expiring or a less expensive player.
LifeOnaPlate
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This trade as proposed is a POS. I say no.
Best point in the thread.
Brilliant
If we plan on simply dumping AK we should at least get a player at a position of need.
Diaw would be jealous of Jose Ortiz's playing time.
In a 4-team trade, of course you try to get the talent you feel you deserve when someone is getting EVERYTHING and you're getting BORIS DIAW. It's the Jazz's job to start kicking and screaming to make this deal be anything but an absolute, across the board loss. The Nets will be stoked just to get Melo and not lose Lopez.
Cant remember the exact number, but I believe KOC said that the Jazz had a 20-4 stretch in when AK was playing really well. Now I realize that AK is injured a lot, but he is a huge difference maker when he is out there playing well. No, he cant do it alone and yes we have to have interrior defenders who can stop their big me, but I think we should be more patient before we trade him.