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Lyles is the pick at 12

I think the clearest indication of the quality of this pick will be visible at the beginning of 2016's summer camp. If Lyles has obviously worked hard on his body, then I'll feel pretty good. If/When he's able to guard 4s, then this is a solid pick.
 
The more I look into it, the more I think he's going to be very good in the modern league. His role could be a lot like Boris Diaw with the Spurs--mobility, decision making, passing, scoring opportunistically. And he's big.

This is a good pick.
 
Catchall said:
The more I look into it, the more I think he's going to be very good in the modern league. His role could be a lot like Boris Diaw with the Spurs--mobility, decision making, passing, scoring opportunistically. And he's big.

This is a good pick.
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Im warming as well, but mainly because of the fact that he has not shown what he is capable of yet was talented enough to be a top 10 recruit. Has great measurables. He looked good in HS. Think he shave and they stop to call him Boozer. Maybe he is perfect fit as third?
 
Howard said:
1) Only a bitch negs somebody just because they got negged first. Are you a bitch? Must be.

2) I negged you because this is an idiotic statement. Nobody is saying Lyles is a savior, or anything near that. I think most reasonable people realize he's going to be a 3rd big for us.

3) Indoor was supposed to be idiot, but my phone is an indoor.

4) You're still an idiot.
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Oh did I hurt your little feelings I'm sorry you must be supersensitive. I never neg for an opinion as I believe everyone should be able to say what they want unless it's a personal attack. But I do return negative rep with negative rep. Don't really care what you call me or what your opinion is of me. My rep level shows that I have plenty of respect from others on this board.
 
Stifle Tower said:
Oh did I hurt your little feelings I'm sorry you must be supersensitive. I never neg for an opinion as I believe everyone should be able to say what they want unless it's a personal attack. But I do return negative rep with negative rep. Don't really care what you call me or what your opinion is of me. My rep level shows that I have plenty of respect from others on this board.
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Don't worry for him!!! He always negs so I don't know why he is cry when he gets it!!!!

I like your thoughts.
 
I wanted Turner and Connaughton, but I think Lyles is a solid pick. Oubre could go either way, but I think Lyles will have a better career than Booker. Lyles is a better all-around player and offers versatility to the offense. If it's any consolation Indiana also had Turner and Lyles rated high than Booker.
 
NAOS said:
the Lyles - Kanter comparisons are straight-up LOL
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Agreed
At the time, kanter had way more upside and potential. (Which is why he was a top three pick and considered by some draft experts to be the #1 prospect in that draft)
 
Dennis Lindsey says teh combine got Lyles' body fat wrong and that he is no where ear 12% body fat when they measured it during their workout.
 
NAOS said:
the Lyles - Kanter comparisons are straight-up LOL
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There is no comparison at between the two except that they play basketball and are tall. The Boozer comparisons are very bizarre also.
 
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Thing I don't get is continuing to draft project bigs who at best you hope will be a serviceable backup when there are so many backup bigs who can be had for cheap. Let someone else develop them.

What we need is our own Kawhi/Butler/Klay. Take a chance because you're not going to sign one in free agency.


The NBA draft is the biggest waste of assets in professional sports because fans are hyped up idiots who have to be sold to. Go ask Danny Ainge.
 
I'll be honest... I was very disappointed in last night's draft. We had a chance to grab an elite shooter with a high ceiling (clay Thompson is Booker's ceiling imo). Sure he can be a bust, but what is Lyles' ceiling, and what purpose would that serve the jazz? He's not going to be taking Favors' or Rudy's starting spots. I don't think the jazz needed to draft another project. Lyles isn't a stretch four, nor is he a great defender. With Booker, the jazz would have added an outside shooter which they desperately need. Not-great-at-anything, 6'10 tweener PFs are a dime a dozen in the nba, especially those who can't shoot. I see him as a very poor man's Tyrus Thomas. I love the jazz and really thought they had a great opportunity last night to take someone special.
 
l Abach l said:
I'll be honest... I was very disappointed in last night's draft. We had a chance to grab an elite shooter with a high ceiling (clay Thompson is Booker's ceiling imo). Sure he can be a bust, but what is Lyles' ceiling, and what purpose would that serve the jazz? He's not going to be taking Favors' or Rudy's starting spots. I don't think the jazz needed to draft another project. Lyles isn't a stretch four, nor is he a great defender. With Booker, the jazz would have added an outside shooter which they desperately need. Not-great-at-anything, 6'10 tweener PFs are a dime a dozen in the nba, especially those who can't shoot. I see him as a very poor man's Tyrus Thomas. I love the jazz and really thought they had a great opportunity last night to take someone special.
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Why? Because he is a light skin black guy who can shoot?

Walt Perrin basically laughed at the Klay Thompson/Devin Booker comparison in a predraft interview.
 
TheStormofWar said:
Consider this. He was supposed to be a top 10 pick while playing at a position dominated by smaller, faster players while not even being featured on the team he was playing for. He did so without complaint and he has no ego issues. He's just confident as hell.

Say he was playing for the Utes at the 4. One wonders if he could have been a top 5 or 3 pick? Just a thought.
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Made this point a few days ago. Not sure about top 3 but more like in the 6-9 or 10 range
Eenie-Meenie said:
My take was they wanted Kaminsky because he best fit the need for a stretch 4, but they took the best player left that fit what they thought Kaminsky would bring. And if you compare the two -- Lyles is only 19 and Kaminsky 22. At the same stage, Kaminsky averaged 2 points a game for Wisconsin. This is another player we're just going to have to wait and see if he was the right pick. But he seems to have great upside.
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Not the best fit. Not better then Lyles who is more adept guarding on the perimeter we needed a small ball big.
NUMBERICA said:
I don't know who Lyles' comp is*. I really can't think of one. But I'm okay with the pick. Like anyone else, I want to be in love with it, but I'm not, which is okay. I hope the Jazz work some magic on that shot as that will be a HUGE boon (maybe even a pre-requisite) to his effectiveness when considering his pre-existing skillset.

*with a gun to my head I'm going to say Odom
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Honestly he reminds me a lot of a more athletic fluid moving Boozer with more range on offense
NAOS said:
the Lyles - Kanter comparisons are straight-up LOL
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I think he's saying he will pass the ball more then Kanter. Nothing more
l Abach l said:
I'll be honest... I was very disappointed in last night's draft. We had a chance to grab an elite shooter with a high ceiling (clay Thompson is Booker's ceiling imo). Sure he can be a bust, but what is Lyles' ceiling, and what purpose would that serve the jazz? He's not going to be taking Favors' or Rudy's starting spots. I don't think the jazz needed to draft another project. Lyles isn't a stretch four, nor is he a great defender. With Booker, the jazz would have added an outside shooter which they desperately need. Not-great-at-anything, 6'10 tweener PFs are a dime a dozen in the nba, especially those who can't shoot. I see him as a very poor man's Tyrus Thomas. I love the jazz and really thought they had a great opportunity last night to take someone special.
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I would expect an all round idiot like u to have this view. Lol at u thinking Bookers ceiling is Thompson. Booker can't defend isn't athletic and strictly a spot up shooter his ceiling is more Green from the Spurs with less defense.
 
Cy said:
Why? Because he is a light skin black guy who can shoot?

Walt Perrin basically laughed at the Klay Thompson/Devin Booker comparison in a predraft interview.
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Maybe because multiple ex-NBA players, including Jalen Rose and Jeff Hornacek, have compared him to Klay Thompson? But go ahead bro... you can take advice from the same clown who saw "great potential" in trey burke. Has Walt Perrin ever dribbled a basketball in his life?
 
You know we are really trying hard to like the pick when we bring Kanter into the discussion and start saying our new pick has nothing to do with him :D
 
Thee Jazz Fan... He had the fastest Lane Agility time at the draft combine. How is that for not athletic? Do some research. LOL at calling Abach an idiot and then making a comment that is utterly idiotic.
 
Can Lyles be Donyell Marshall? I'd be really OK with that. Probably my favorite short term Jazz Player ever. He looked slow and smooth, but played really well as a fill-in for Russell and Malone. Kind of an average 3 point shooter, but still holds the record for 3 pointers made in a game. . .
 
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