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Game Thread Mar 11, 2022 06:30PM MT: Jazz at Spurs

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The Thriller said:
****ing hell…
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That isn’t even the worst part. The worst part is when you realize it was a salary deal but then come to understand the future ramifications. We made this deal to shave $3M in salary, which added up to $11M with tax. To save that money, we traded our best locker room guy and two draft picks and picked up two non-rotation guys. Now one of those guys (NAW) is owed $5M next year. Go look up our salary cap. We are farther into the cap next year than we are this year while only having 10 guys under contract (and that’s assuming waiving Juancho’s non-guaranteed deal). So what does this mean? It means that $3M in salary to us this year was worth more than Joe Ingles and two second round picks, especially as we did not take back any pieces that actually help us on the court. So if $3M is that valuable to us this year, how valuable is that $5M we added to next year’s books going to be, especially being in a much-worse cap landscape? What additional assets or players will we be moving to clear salary but not improve the team to make room for NAW’s $5M (and nearing $20M when you account for tax)?

Beyond the very narrow short-term lens, just keeping Ingles and letting him expire would have been a much more financially shrew move, because there’s further collateral from this move coming up.
 
Havent read through this thread so maybe it was already discussed but why the **** didn't quin challenge the foul called on house on the spurs three point attempt? There was ZERO contact. Dude made all 3 free throws. Jazz would have won.
 
Jingled said:
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Yeah but he's absolutely wrong here:



Quin isn't even top-five in the Western Conference.

Kerr, Pop, Malone, Monty Williams and Ty Lou have all done more when it counts the most (the playoffs) than Quin. Hell, Taylor Jenkins just might pass him this year if the Grizzlies make a run in the playoffs.
 
Jazz missed bogey big time.
Royce got shoved in the back on that last offensive rebound that the spurs got off the missed free throw (gay or whiteside probably should have been in anyway to secure the rebound but still)
The Gobert flagrant was completely unintentional.
 
SoUjazzfan said:
43 free throws for the Spurs. 23 for us. Maybe the powers that be wanted pops to get the record tonight, but no excuse to give up a 15 point lead to these guys.
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We didn’t take it to the rim. The spurs were more aggressive and attacked the paint. We chucked up a bunch of perimeter shots, gave the ball away, and just weren’t very aggressive.
 
jom2003 said:
this.

like people complain about Quin not playing Hughes now he's laying bricks in Portland. people wanted House well he started tonight and didn't do much in 28min.

And seriously, I've seen people wanting Quin to play Oni, Brantley, Fitts, Ersan, Mudiay...... And where are these guys right now exactly?

At least give Quin some actual talent to choose from or else I don't think the new coach would change much.
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You forgot Butler
 
fishonjazz said:
Havent read through this thread so maybe it was already discussed but why the **** didn't quin challenge the foul called on house on the spurs three point attempt? There was ZERO contact. Dude made all 3 free throws. Jazz would have won.
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immediately thought the same thing. he has 10 coaches on the bench! maybe someone could suggest this to him?! he also could have challenged the deflection call on the last play of the game. but no, Quin wants to roll the challenge over to the Kings game tomorrow night.
 
infection said:
When you’ve lost Tony… you’re ****ed.
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Yeah couldn’t even muster a “Jazz are a contender” somewhere in there. Just says we elite when **** going good.
 
r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t said:
immediately thought the same thing. he has 10 coaches on the bench! maybe someone could suggest this to him?! he also could have challenged the deflection call on the last play of the game. but no, Quin wants to roll the challenge over to the Kings game tomorrow night.
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And sometimes the challenge isn't worth it even if you are pretty sure you are going to win the challenge. But in that case it was right at the end of a very very close game and it was 3 free throws on the line. You have to challenge that one for ****s sake.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I yelled at Snyder to put in Whiteside for the FT rebounds lmao. Too bad he didn't listen.
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I seriously was like WTF are you doing… he even subbed guys in and seemed to tell the ref he wanted a timeout… when the screen panned out and I saw no Whiteside I was pissed. We’d already given up two offensive rebounds off free throws.
 
Jazz need to experiment with Gobert as a pick n pop midrange player. He needs more shots and his FT shooting has gotten good enough where I believe in his ability to hit jumpers.
 
fishonjazz said:
Jazz missed bogey big time.
Royce got shoved in the back on that last offensive rebound that the spurs got off the missed free throw (gay or whiteside probably should have been in anyway to secure the rebound but still)
The Gobert flagrant was completely unintentional.
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The five minute report should show we got thoroughly deep dicked by the refs. Donovan was clearly fouled on the layup attempt. I think House may have got walker on the elbow a little but our broadcast team showed dumb angles on replay.

Royce was definitely fouled but he also has to fight harder. Not every team concedes that ****. You might have to fight for it.
 
Avery said:
If Conley was just awful vs. godawful, we would have won.

Sad thing is we accomplished nothing at the trade deadline.
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Less than nothing. Gave up something for a net negative.
 
I'm getting so tired of these losses where we choke away 4th quarter 15-20 pt leads. Honestly, I'd rather we just lose like we did in New Orleans...this **** is getting old.
 
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