Jefferson could do a front-loaded deal. I may get flamed for saying this, but Al + Favs + Kanter each playing 36 minutes at PF/C isn't the worst idea. Notice how Al draws a double team and sets up our shooters? He can coexist.
Millsap for Bledsoe?
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Jefferson could do a front-loaded deal. I may get flamed for saying this, but Al + Favs + Kanter each playing 36 minutes at PF/C isn't the worst idea. Notice how Al draws a double team and sets up our shooters? He can coexist.
Why do I have to choose? Get both!
If i had to, I would pick Bledsoe because he has proven himself on a NBA level. Less risk. I also really like his defense and motor which would mesh perfectly with the youngsters on the team.....but yeah....get both and sub in Burke, Bledsoe, Foye, Burks any way you please.
This has been going on for a week. Usually a trade idea that doesn't have legs gets shot down sooner than this.
Do your math again. Also remember (and I promise you this) one of Favors or Kanter will not ever start while Al is here. He will also close games. That's not 32 minutes for everyone. And hitting open shooters (occasionally) helps Al coexist with other bigs how?
Jefferson also cannot do any appreciable front loaded deal. Jefferson will continue to be everything everyone's been amply dissatisfied with (loser mentality, paired with loser focus and effort level, no presence in transition, largely terrible team D, soft as they come) except he can occasionally impact the game by passing now.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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No thanks. I believe one of Kanter or Favors will be a star or both and that won't happen with Al in Utah another 3-4 years. Just as much as they need to learn to be the man, the jazz need to learn to lean on these two, and that's not happening with Al.
I think their ceiling are about the same... but with Bledsoe we can get the show on the road straight away. Burke would probably need 1-2 years to get accustomed to the NBA's pace, physicality, plays, etc.
Bledsoe is also light years ahead of Burke at the moment.
I want Bledsoe over any PG in this upcoming draft mainly because it gives us a core at similar ages and stages. Drafting a guy like Burke is fine, but knowing us he'll rot on the bench for at least two years before doing ANYTHING. Bledsoe is already a solid contributor and will get at least 20 minutes (and probably more) right off the bat.
That's why we should let Mo walks. Sign Tinsley & Earl again for short contracts. They're so old they're bound to get injured again and Ty would have no choice but to start Burke 1/2 way through the season (ala Burks at PG this year).
I highly doubt Mo isn't brought back. Despite the fact that he's terrible, KOC loves him.
I know KOC loves him. But KOC also doesn't like giving out long term contracts (Tinsley, Earl, DeMare), which Mo will be asking for, now that he's 30.
I don't think he's terrible. I think he's a Jason Terry-type player. He's a bit redundant with Foye in that respect. I also barely remember what he looks like.
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According to @jefflloyd86 ESPN's @BillSimmons (Clippers season tix holder for years) just said on TV Millsap Bledsoe trade needs to happen.
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Hope may still be alive for Millsap Bledsoe trade. #BringEricBledsoeToTheJazz #JazzNation
According to @jefflloyd86 ESPN's @BillSimmons (Clippers season tix holder for years) just said on TV Millsap Bledsoe trade needs to happen.
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Hope may still be alive for Millsap Bledsoe trade. #BringEricBledsoeToTheJazz #JazzNation
billyshelby
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The better question is if you could have two of the three between Bledsoe, Burks, and Hayward, which two do you pick? For me, that answer is Burks and Bledsoe. But using Hayward in a deal to get Bledsoe is far more complicated than just determining Bledsoe and Burks are better. And I'm not saying KOC/Lindsey, or whoever is actually running the show these days thinks that.
Trading away Hayward would be the greatest sin this franchise has ever committed.
billyshelby
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I actually think it would be the shrewdest move they could make, but let me qualify it: I think Hayward is a really good player. I think a lot of his value doesn't show up in the boxscore like AK. And for a lot of reasons, I would have no problem if they signed him to a reasonable extension this summer (even though I personally would wait till he's an RFA.)
But from an asset management perspective, I think his perceived value is higher than his actual value. Conversely, Burks perceived value is lower. Favors is the only guy getting an extension, and the only question is how much.
IF the Jazz are convinced he's going to be either the A or B star of the future, then you don't deal him except in a megadeal. But IF they see him as a quality third or fourth piece on a good team, THEN you explore what assets he can bring back BECAUSE you're already thinking about how you're going to lock in Favors, Kanter, and Burks/Bledsoe as the pillars.
For me, I like a future four of Favors/Kanter/Bledsoe/Burks much more than with Hayward in Burks' place.
billyshelby
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I think Bledsoe's floor is Ty Lawson.
I think Hayward's ceiling is AK, but his floor is a very useful player like Iggy lite
Burks' evaluation is where GM's make their money. I think his skill set is very similar to Waiters.
They're all good players, and Hayward is the surest thing of the 3. But in my mind, he's also the least likely to reach true star level. I get taking the sure thing from a GM perspective, but the best GM's know when to gamble, too.
GVC
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His floor? Oh my.