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Gameface said:
We're talking about the election, in the U.S., of a demagogue. A politician who appeals to our lower selves. A candidate that stokes our nationalistic pride and identifies those who represent the core of what it means to be an American as someone like "me." And in identifying a real American as someone like me he also identifies those who are not real Americans, those who do not represent the greatness of the America we will create. those who are different than "me."
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I remember in one of his earlier rallies, as a small group of protestors were being led out, he told the crowd that these were not good Americans, that they were in fact the worst Americans. He pits Americans against Americans. The divisions are there, and he encourages them. Never let me hear him call himself a unifier.....
 
Red said:
I remember in one of his earlier rallies, as a small group of protestors were being led out, he told the crowd that these were not good Americans, that they were in fact the worst Americans. He pits Americans against Americans. The divisions are there, and he encourages them. Never let me hear him call himself a unifier.....
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Yeah. Those comments he made about a basket of deplorables were truly obscene.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
Yeah. Those comments he made about a basket of deplorables were truly obscene.
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It's possible to point out the massive faults of one candidate without defending or propping up the other.

This is why people place you in the camp of his supporters. This is absolutely a valid critique of him. It doesn't have anything to do with her and what she does or does not do. Usually any time something bad is said about him you come in to defend him or try and lessen it by pointing at her.

Just an observation.
 
Stoked said:
It's possible to point out the massive faults of one candidate without defending or propping up the other.

This is why people place you in the camp of his supporters. This is absolutely a valid critique of him. It doesn't have anything to do with her and what she does or does not do. Usually any time something bad is said about him you come in to defend him or try and lessen it by pointing at her.

Just an observation.
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Its possible, but it isnt happening here. Most the people here who attack Trump, will make excuses for Hillary to justify their voter for her.

Nobody should be voting for either one. I still cant figure out how or why we are even at this point where these are our two choices. We have the means through internet to bypass the main stream media and not let them choose who we have to vote for. This would have been the perfect time to do that because of who we have to pick from. But we cant, because we still have morons on both sides defending these people. Like the clowns here who are defending Hillary.

Hillary is everybit as dangerous to the country as Trump. Just in different ways.
 
Computer said:
Its possible, but it isnt happening here. Most the people here who attack Trump, will make excuses for Hillary to justify their voter for her.

Nobody should be voting for either one. I still cant figure out how or why we are even at this point where these are our two choices. We have the means through internet to bypass the main stream media and not let them choose who we have to vote for. This would have been the perfect time to do that because of who we have to pick from. But we cant, because we still have morons on both sides defending these people. Like the clowns here who are defending Hillary.

Hillary is everybit as dangerous to the country as Trump. Just in different ways.
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No, Trump sucks way worse.

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For those who haven't looked into it very deeply Hitler actually didn't rise to power on demagoguery. He had some very radical ideas that were quite different from mainstream public thinking at the time but at the beginning the man got things done. Pulled Germany out of their depression faster and before most other countries and really appealed to the everyman. And his belief in German national pride and superiority was genuine. It was a right time right place kind of thing with him. It was also a boil the frog kind of way that he approached getting the public to generally go along with his more radical ideas until it reached a point where the public could really no longer do anything about it. As terrible a monster as he was he was truly a great statesman and leader. He turned to demagoguery to hold the populace in check during the worst parts of his over arching plan of genocide and world domination. But he didn't rise to power on it.

I've been hearing the comparisons of trump to Hitler and I think they are way off base. I think Hitler was smarter and a far better politician probably than even hillary, but with a grand agenda far greater in scope than just a presidency. It's actually in some ways an insult to Hitler to compare him to trump. Trump is just an idiot with no real plan hoping to rise the wave of public discouragement in a decade and a half of rough political and economic issues to the presidency. He is truly a dog chasing cars with no clue what he's do with one once he caught it. For him it's just an ego thing. But he is absolutely no Hitler.
 
Computer said:
Its possible, but it isnt happening here. Most the people here who attack Trump, will make excuses for Hillary to justify their voter for her.

Nobody should be voting for either one. I still cant figure out how or why we are even at this point where these are our two choices. We have the means through internet to bypass the main stream media and not let them choose who we have to vote for. This would have been the perfect time to do that because of who we have to pick from. But we cant, because we still have morons on both sides defending these people. Like the clowns here who are defending Hillary.

Hillary is everybit as dangerous to the country as Trump. Just in different ways.
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I'm not sure I've ever said one good thing about Hillary on these forums. As I've said before this is not about Hillary. This is about stopping Trump. What if Trump's love affair with Putin turns into a Twitter war?
 
In some regards Trump is no Hitler:

"Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, okay, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, okay, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are (nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right — who would have thought?), but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us."


https://www.vox.com/2016/8/18/12423688/donald-trump-speech-style-explained-by-linguists
 
str8line said:
In some regards Trump is no Hitler:

"Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, okay, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, okay, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are (nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right — who would have thought?), but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us."


https://www.vox.com/2016/8/18/12423688/donald-trump-speech-style-explained-by-linguists
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I dont know what you are getting at with in regard to" Trump is no Hitler"

That speech is incoherent. My guess is that Hitler was a much better speaker.
 
Computer said:
I dont know what you are getting at with in regard to" Trump is no Hitler"

That speech is incoherent. My guess is that Hitler was a much better speaker.
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Seriously? This right here is why we have the rise of Trump, folks.
 
Until I see a good post-debate bump for Clinton I’m still nervous the election is too close to call. The polls will start coming in this weekend, so not much longer to wait. Interesting, though, that David Plouffe, former Obama campaign manager, said on Bloomberg news yesterday that he sees no path to victory for Trump, that the electoral college math is just not there.

Furthermore, Plouffe has said panic over polls showing a tight race are overplayed and give an incomplete picture of the composition of the electorate. For example, Trump support is hard, more of his vote is in the bank, whereas Clinton support is softer and is more likely to register temporarily as undecided. The key word is temporary. Plouffe says he is certain those voters will come home to Clinton.

How is he so certain? The Obama campaign, and now the Clinton campaign, according to Plouffe, use sophisticated modeling surveys of every voter on file and that they give a much better understanding, at this point in the campaign, on how the electorate will be allocated on election day. In contrast, polls only start to become definitive and certain the last week or two before the election. Plouffe predicted, with 100 percent certainty no less, that Clinton will win in November.
 
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str8line said:
GREAT comment section for this article:


https://nymag.com/daily/intelligenc...enial-that-debate-exposed-trump-as-unfit.html
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Why cant the two parties just get different people in there before this election happens. I dont really see why we have to be stuck with these two choices.

The presidential election is dumb as ****. Its literally the worse process in coming up with a leader. The **** feels so damn rigged. I dont know anyone in their right mind that actually likes either candidate.
 
I guess I stumbled into the wrong house and can't find the door out.

What stuff you guys do In'?

Trump is doing better than anyone believed possible. Who ever thought he could win? That's why I thought he was Hillary's Perot.

But it looks like the Bigs had better lean real hard on those computer programs that count the votes.

I still say the worst thing that can happen for the progressives is a Dem win this time. It will derail their program.
 
Everybody sing!

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Here’s a nice interview with historian Rick Perlstein on the alt-right, how it's connected to the rise of Trump, and the future implications for the Republican Party.

Perlstein is the author of "Before the Storm" on the Goldwater revolution, “Nixonland” which chronicles Nixon’s return to power following his humiliating loss in the election for governor of California in 1966 and, most recently, “The Invisible Bridge” about the rise of Ronald Reagan.

Listen on podcast:

https://https://wws.princeton.edu/news-and-events/news/item/politics-polls-13-alt-right
 
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