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Nikola Mirotic

LoPo said:
Lol slow European hands
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Portis is scary.

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I can see why Mirotic would want out of Chicago. Definitely.
 
Stoked said:
You have no basis to make a determination on if that player will be better than Mirotic. You have no basis to say the player will be worse.

Lmfao, is this?

Edit: Listen up guys! No one drafted in 2021 will every be better than Hill and no one drafted in 2022 will be better than Ingles. So just run this mill as is. No brainer.
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There is basis. It's called history of what draft picks are. You can look at the history of each pick slot and see what they have become.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
There is basis. It's called history of what draft picks are. You can look at the history of each pick slot and see what they have become.
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The asset may have more value though even if the player is nowhere as good. 4 cheap years with the ability to control the player for up to 7 if you get a good one. That and the upside can be immense if you hit... the chances of hitting are admittedly low.

Once upon a time Mirotic was a first round pick guys... just saying.
 
Mirotic would improve the team vs Favors or Burks or J Johnson. We have all seen how Favors doesn't work with Gobert AND Rubio and I don't think we are going to be selling Rubio any time soon. We have all seen the need for a stretch 4 on this roster next to Gobert. Now there is a top 3 stretch 4 in the league and some of you are debating whether he would be good for the team?

Outside of tanking for 6 years straight, I don't see a reasonable way to improve our team now than with a solid scoring threat at the 4 position. For that reason, I am stoked about the Spencer Checketts update.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Spence Checketts (not the most reliable source for sure) says Mirotic to Utah is real... not done, but teams are talking.

So I guess he can read Espn.com too and make statements that would almost surely be true... but add one more sauce to the story.
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Not reliable at all.
 
My only concern with Mirotic is his defense. We tried that last year with lyles and it was brutal. I hope he isn’t as bad as I remember him to be. Cause even with Gobert back there. If you can’t stay in front of your guy, it makes anyone vulnerable behind you.


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themanknownassting said:
My only concern with Mirotic is his defense. We tried that last year with lyles and it was brutal. I hope he isn’t as bad as I remember him to be. Cause even with Gobert back there. If you can’t stay in front of your guy, it makes anyone vulnerable behind you.


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Lyles was a bad defender and part of that was ability but a lot was mental. I think Niko is fine... he should know where to be and should be able to do a better job rebounding than Lyles did last year.

We survived with Boris on the floor defensively... I think Niko is better than that.

I worry more that his shooting falls back to earth and he returns to just a streaky so-so three point shooter.
 
I do not think DL will trade another 1st away. Lesson learned with George Hill walking. He may trade Hood, Favors, Burks, maybe even Exum. Will be interesting to see what happens Jan 15
 
I mean, we dont need anyone to tell us the Jazz are discussing Mirotic, it's an obvious thing they would talk about and be interested in.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Every trade and player is a failure when you measure them with "do we win a title" or "does he help us win a title" it is so hard and rare to win a title. You want a building block that helps you win... Niko can be that. His timeline is fine and it is hard to line up timelines perfectly... in part because young guys flame out all the time. We can worry about championship windows when we are a consistent playoff team.

Get Niko if the price is right... pay him in two years if he's worth it. We will still need another big piece.
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I agree with this.

People keep talking about winning a championship but that is a huge leap. It is unlikely to happen unless we get lucky. Just build a good consistent playoff team and then hope to get lucky or make an all in move at that time.
 
Jazz4ever said:
Bulls would value him, he's young, cheap, and doesn't help them win a single game this year (they're tanking for a top 3 pick).
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Of course they do. There are other assets we have that can be used to get Mirotic. We should value him more than giving him up for Mirotic. Exum is a next 10 years talent potentially. Mirotic is a next 5. DL - do not give up on Exum yet.
 
Mirotic is most likely better than any player we’d draft.

Only a moron would give up Mirotic to tank for a player not as good as Mirotic.

This is a no brainer for Utah.
Stoked said:
You have no basis to make a determination on if that player will be better than Mirotic. You have no basis to say the player will be worse.

Lmfao, is this?

Edit: Listen up guys! No one drafted in 2021 will every be better than Hill and no one drafted in 2022 will be better than Ingles. So just run this mill as is. No brainer.
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When you can get a 6 ft 10 player who is an above average three point shooter or a 10-15 pick, take the bird in the hand.

To take that risk, to not go after Mirotic because you “hope” you can get a player that “might” be as good...

Be smart. Odds are the draft pick won’t be as good. Mirotic is very, very good. He has borderline all star potential. His age is right. His role fits perfectly with Utah.

It’s a no brainer. It really is.
 
LoPo said:
I understand that completely. My counter argument is this - is it worth getting rid of our best current assets (Hood, expirings, Favors) for Mirotic OR maybe try to get a top end lottery pick for this year or next? Do we use our assets for Mirotic or do we use our assets for a younger higher risk / higher reward type target?
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It’s no secret...I don’t like Hood. He is so overrated and is about to become massively overpaid. I’d give up Hood, a bench player for us, for Mirotic, a starter who fits in perfectly with Mitchell and Gobert.

Take the bird in hand.
 
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