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Noah Vonleh. Why???

You cannot imagine how badly SPYDER must hate that song. It's ****ing impossible to conceive. And he has to sing it at every show he plays for the rest of his miserable life.
 
UGLI baby said:
Ppl who see Noah Vonleh as a top 5 pick and future all star, pls explain.

To me looks like a dude who is *probably* a starter in the NBA, but not much more.

Can't imagine passing up on someone with sky high potential like Aaron Gordon for someone as blah as Vonleh.

What am I missing Vonleh lovers??
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High fliers are not widely appreciated over post scoring and three pointers in Utah.
 
UGLI baby said:
If I were to discover I'm wrong about Vonleh, It'd get me a lot more excited for the draft. He's the dude I'm scared of the Jazz picking right now.
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Same.

Far and away the least amount of fire (something the Jazz desperately need) of anyone in the top 10.
 
Jazz4ever said:
The Locke video is a pretty fair analysis if you want the quick and dirty. Watch Vonleh guard on the perimeter at the end, and how his hand size allows him to rip and control a rebound (not just tip it around). Things like that make or break you as a big in this league. Kanter couldn't do it, and why we were -2000 with him on the court.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c0kBSaQsnQ
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How does this help the case for Vonleh? Mute Locke and you're left with a highlight reel of turn overs and his failure to finish at the rim. He can definitely shoot for his size. His D is meh ok against much less athletic competition than he will face in the NBA. I see nothing to be excited about in Vonleh. The Bosh comps are ricockulous, imo.
 
NUMBERICA said:
You cannot imagine how badly SPYDER must hate that song. It's ****ing impossible to conceive. And he has to sing it at every show he plays for the rest of his miserable life.
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Because Powerman5000 has album after album of quality songs, lol. SPYDER(lol again) should be thankful he is a one hit wonder and that anyone is willing to pay money to hear him sing it. Would you even know who he was without that song? Doubtful
 
Well he has good footwork defensively, he tested well athletically but he has trouble using it. He's a good scorer and he has a lot of upside.
But the thing is that Gordon is WAY better defensively and always will be. He's extremely athletic and knows how to use it. He's not a very good shooter but with a good shooting coach he can get better just like Kawaii did. He has a lot of upside as well.

Another thing to note, I notice in interviews that Vonleh seems really mellow and nonchalant and that makes me think he doesn't care ad much as he should. Not saying that he doesn't care but will he actually develop his game to the best of his ability? I don't see that happening.
With Gordon, like this guy said at my work, he's a winner. Seriously, Gordon is gonna go in everyday hungry wanting to improve his game. This is really the guy the Jazz need to take. No questions asked.
 
Tony said:
Well he has good footwork defensively, he tested well athletically but he has trouble using it. He's a good scorer and he has a lot of upside.
But the thing is that Gordon is WAY better defensively and always will be. He's extremely athletic and knows how to use it. He's not a very good shooter but with a good shooting coach he can get better just like Kawaii did. He has a lot of upside as well.

Another thing to note, I notice in interviews that Vonleh seems really mellow and nonchalant and that makes me think he doesn't care ad much as he should. Not saying that he doesn't care but will he actually develop his game to the best of his ability? I don't see that happening.
With Gordon, like this guy said at my work, he's a winner. Seriously, Gordon is gonna go in everyday hungry wanting to improve his game. This is really the guy the Jazz need to take. No questions asked.
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Ive read stories that fly directly in the face of this, I read once that he missed a 3 at the end of an AAU game in which his team lost by 2. After the game he took full blame for the loss, and immediately wanted to go work on his shooting and basically for a day or 2 you couldnt pry him out of the gym, he was so mad at himself. ill try to find the exact story, it was something crazy though, I think he practiced for the 3rd time that day at 8pm and then tried to get his AAU coach to re-open the gym again at 11pm.
 
We can't afford to draft a guy based mostly on projections, and upside. We must hit a home run this draft if we plan to do anything with this current young core.
 
Revolution 9 said:
We can't afford to draft a guy based mostly on projections, and upside. We must hit a home run this draft if we plan to do anything with this current young core.
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So who would you draft at #5 then?



Player with the least upside but surest production machine is probably Randle who averaged double double in college.
 
Revolution 9 said:
We can't afford to draft a guy based mostly on projections, and upside. We must hit a home run this draft if we plan to do anything with this current young core.
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Why is it the Jazz should go for a home run with the 5th pick? Whatever happened to good old BPA?

Why cant they go for a home run with the 23rd or 35th pick instead? or how about in Free Agency?

If the 5th pick isn't BPA, I'd hope the priority is finding a pillar of the franchise type player that fits the foundation of the team. Noah fits that mold, The Jazz value rebounding, right? Thats what Noah does best, he rebounds outside of his area much better than what I saw from Enes or Derrick last year.

If Enes is great next year you can keep all 3 for several years, Noah will be a RFA when Favors contract expires. You can play Noah seamlessly next to Enes or Derrick. If Kanter moves on to another team, Vonleh with a year of NBA experience is certainly a better fallback option than anything at PF in next years draft.
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
Why is it the Jazz should go for a home run with the 5th pick? Whatever happened to good old BPA?

Why cant they go for a home run with the 23rd or 35th pick instead? or how about in Free Agency?

If the 5th pick isn't BPA, I'd hope the priority is finding a pillar of the franchise type player that fits the foundation of the team. Noah fits that mold, The Jazz value rebounding, right? Thats what Noah does best, he rebounds outside of his area much better than what I saw from Enes or Derrick last year.

If Enes is great next year you can keep all 3 for several years, Noah will be a RFA when Favors contract expires. You can play Noah seamlessly next to Enes or Derrick or Kanter moves on, Vonleh is a better fallback option than anything at PF in next years draft.
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why u so enamored with weird looking safe picks? swing for the fences for a pretty boy.
 
PKM said:
why u so enamored with weird looking safe picks? swing for the fences for a pretty boy.
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Bruh if im swinging for the fences in this draft, heres what im doing;

Trading down, like 2 times.

5 for 7 and next years first rounder unprotected from the Lakers.

7 for 14, 18 and 50

Rodney Hood, Adreian Payne, PJ Hairston, Walter Tavares(Stash), Josh Huestis.

Trey - F/A - Garrett
Burks - Hairston
Hayward - Hood - Huestis
Kanter - Payne - Evans
Favors - Gobert

and the Lakers pick next year...
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
Bruh if im swinging for the fences in this draft, heres what im doing;

Trading down, like 2 times.

5 for 7 and next years first rounder unprotected from the Lakers.

7 for 14, 18 and 50

Rodney Hood, Adreian Payne, PJ Hairston, Walter Tavares(Stash), Josh Huestis.

Trey - FA - Garrett
Hayward - Burks - Hairston
Hood - Hairston - Huestis
Kanter - Payne - Evans
Favors - Gobert

and the Lakers pick next year...
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That's almost as stupid as being upset with a player for supporting his countrymen.
 
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