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Incredible.

BYU's freshmen backup QB is 100x better than Utah's 4 year starting QB.

How is it possible that you go 7 years without properly replacing Brian Johnson?

This game is 100 percent on Wilson. He essentially threw 2 td passes for USC. He was clearly their best offensive player! Game ball goes to Wilson!

As far as using Booker, you have to mix the pass in with the run. You can't run Booker every play. The pass plays called were conservative. The passes themselves? Inexcusable. You can't throw the ball late across the middle with a linebacker in front and a safety behind the receiver.

Onc Utah fell behind they couldn't use Booker. That game got away from Utah and quickly!

You are up in the night of you can't see how this is 100 percent on Wilson. The dude Threw not 1 but 2 pick 6s! You can do that and still win against Wagner or weber St. But not against USC.
 
Bronco70 said:
Why is that?

O State, Arizona, and Colorado? All very winnable games.

UCLA is not a gimme (none of them are) but I still like our chances. We play them at home, and they are vulnerable to physical defenses.

Your heart is reading way too much into this game. You want to write Utah off, but the division is still theirs to lose.

I'm betting they take a lot away from this loss.
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Yes those are winnable games, just like USC was supposed to be winnable. Maybe your right and Utah really rallies around this loss and plays better. Ill guess it breaks them a little since they dont trust their QB anymore and had their title hopes broken.
 
ClLUTClH said:
How many beers does it take to forget a loss like this? This is new territory for me.
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Go to whiskey. It will do the trick
 
♪alt13 said:
Better head out and get a bottle of whiskey

edit; don't drive
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Beat me to it.

I'm drinking that bourbon whiskey currently.

Forgetting all kinds of ****
 
prodigy said:
14 rushes for Booker is unacceptable and goes against everything we've done this point. so i agree this loss isn't solely on wilson
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This. But it mostly on Wilson
 
//r00t 4 Jazz said:
This is what I was trying to say but am a bit emotional during games, Wilson is to blame for deciding to throw the ball but I feel like they thought they were being aggressive by calling pass plays but those routes/calls were conservative short routes, which the U normally calls anyway but normally they're running the ball more.

IMO they should keep running it as Booker is the best player but they need to mix in the QB run and a few different type of option plays to mix up the run plays and use Booker as a decoy as a change of pace as well as play action pass more, but who knows maybe they do not have the personal to do that successfully (like different screens plays) and that's why they don't/can't run them.

At any rate, not unexpected other then how they lost as USC is just way to talented to lose 3 games in a row and I am still happy and optimistic for the season overall. Winning the PAC12 South is and would be a HUGE accomplishment but I want the players to stew in this for the night and maybe tomorrow so they remember how this feels and not let it happen again. I still think they are right around a top 10 team overall and will need to improve to be a playoff contention team and so again overall that is a VERY good season and while the playoffs would be great that doesn't mean it is not a successful season if they don't get in and that's what's great about being in the PAC12 even with 1 loss they can still get into the playoffs but the way the played today they would get creamed by Stanford. Luckily that game wouldn't happen for another month and a half so plenty of time to improve and grow.
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Tltoodrunk
 
I didn't post this last night because I figured it was the emotion talking and in that emotion I deleted the game so I can't double check today but is it just me or did all 3 of Cameron Smith's INT's happen at almost the exact same area (within maybe a yard or so) a 4 to 5'ish yard route and just a yard or two outside side of the offensive tackle area. To me they all also looked like that was the design of the play and not just the last option check down, still doesn't matter because Wilson should've never thrown the ball just frustrating that 3 different players on the 3 different routes all designed to end up at around the same depth and area on the field. Anyway I could go on but it's just me being frustrated I'm sure.


I'm hoping the players, coaches and just as a team overall can grow and learn from this game and from their mistakes, so they can move forward, become stronger, better and improve overall individually and as a team. Can I get a FAMILY on 3!

That's why I'm not worried going forward, doesn't mean I'm not wrong or it can't happen but I think this team is behind that mantra and is a "family" and will stick together.
 
^ the usc lb made good reads, but you are right they were around the same area, with wilson staring down the receiver those were predictable passes. The passing game is still unreliable and has been all season, we've just been able to get away with it up until this point thanks to strong defensive play and wilson not making dumb throws. guess it was inevitable at some point wilson's poor decision he's shown through the years would show up. think it's the coordinator's job to recognize when your qb is out of sorts, we should have ran the ball a helluva lot more against usc in the 1st half. we put it on wilson to make the play and it cost us.

Dropped to 13 & 14 in the polls which sounds about right. still every week utah will have to grind games out because that's what we do. We should still be favorite to win the south but at this point gotta figure Stanford is the favorite to win the pac-12 championship, their offense looks way better than it was last year. our offense still has issues.
 
How is it possible that the Utes still haven't found a replacement for Brian Johnson?

How do you out recruit BYU at ever position but the most important one?

Could you imagine how good you'd be if you had Taysom's freshmen backup? It's sad when BYU's 2nd string QB is 100x better than your 4th year starting senior.

What's the solution? Fire Roddick's and hire yet another OC?
 
The Thriller said:
How is it possible that the Utes still haven't found a replacement for Brian Johnson?

How do you out recruit BYU at ever position but the most important one?

Could you imagine how good you'd be if you had Taysom's freshmen backup? It's sad when BYU's 2nd string QB is 100x better than your 4th year starting senior.

What's the solution? Fire Roddick's and hire yet another OC?
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You mean the QB that threw for 55 yards against Michigan?


BYU and Utah both have bad QB's. BYU's just has no pressure and plays against mediocre defenses most of the season.
 
Cam Smith was so bad in coverage in previous games that I didn't even bother mentioning him in that paragraph or so I wrote on SC's D in the topic because I still considered him a net weakness. Travis Wilson aside, I'm still in shock by how well he covered his portion of the field in that game.
 
♪alt13 said:
It wasn't just Wilson. Utah called a bad game offensively. They abandoned what had gotten them here from the get go and then there was no going back. Defensively the early pressure was a good call. They could have deflated USC if they would have stuck to their offensive schemes. Everybody was trying to strut their stuff and show off, that is not what I expected. Tonight is on KW, first and foremost.
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I've said this 100 times since Saturday. This, this, this.

Utah went away from what made them successful. They quit running the ball.

If you ask Wilson to throw it 35+ times, you will lose more than win. That isn't his game. He isn't all pro, but he isn't bad either. You just need to put him in positions to succeed. This game is on the OC. They tried to get too cute.
 
King Cy said:
Welcome back to reality.
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Reality:

Utah is all alone at the top of the south division.

Utah's schedule is much easier from here on out than it was before.

Utah still has a great defense and will play a lot of suspect defenses going forward.

Utah controls their own destiny.

This loss changed nothing.
 
♪alt13 said:
Sure, but It's weird to negate your best weapon(Booker) while simultaneously showing off your QB's greatest weakness. The coaching staff deserves a lot of the blame. They too get hyper analyzed. That's just how it is.
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The coaching staff called this game like they were a MWC team playing a P5 team. They tried to get too cute. A "giant" as Whitt likes to call Utah, would have lined up and ran the ball down USC's throat. Come the third quarter, we would have started breaking off bigger runs and crushed them.

I still think if we would have ran the ball 40-50 times, we win and win easily.
 
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