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stitches said:
Because he's not the answer?
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He helps, though.

I've been a fan of Bev for a long time. Probably started multiple threads about acquiring him. Because I've de-escalated my gaze on jazz-related issues, I'm not really sure how acquiring him would impact being able to keep Hill and Ingles (and Hay, obvi).... so I'm not officially endorsing this. But he'd be a useful bench piece, no doubt.
 
I'd be on board if we picked up Beverley as long as we aren't giving up something crazy. Give me Beverley at 5 mill over Hill at 20 mill or more anyday.
 
NAOS said:
He helps, though.

I've been a fan of Bev for a long time. Probably started multiple threads about acquiring him. Because I've de-escalated my gaze on jazz-related issues, I'm not really sure how acquiring him would impact being able to keep Hill and Ingles (and Hay, obvi).... so I'm not officially endorsing this. But he'd be a useful bench piece, no doubt.
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He helps to ruin the tank if we lose Hayward and Hill and he doesn't help with getting Hayward and Hill back. And I like him. He's awesome for his contract. I kind of want to just get him, just because of his crazy good contract, but he doesn't really help us in the ways that most matter for the franchise right now.
 
NAOS said:
He helps, though.

I've been a fan of Bev for a long time. Probably started multiple threads about acquiring him. Because I've de-escalated my gaze on jazz-related issues, I'm not really sure how acquiring him would impact being able to keep Hill and Ingles (and Hay, obvi).... so I'm not officially endorsing this. But he'd be a useful bench piece, no doubt.
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He brought NAOS back, so I'm all for it.
 
I like Beverly, but I feel like we almost have to get Kevin Love somehow to make the team viable option for Hayward to stay (assuming we don't re-sign Hill).

Then we have a starting unit of:
Beverly
Ingles
Hayward
Love
Gobert
 
stitches said:
He helps to ruin the tank if we lose Hayward and Hill and he doesn't help with getting Hayward and Hill back.
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Or you flip him after FA when teams lose out on big money guys...

If the cost is the OKC pick and cap space I'd get him and try to sneak #43 or Harrell in the deal.
 
If the Jazz pick up Beverly, it's to replace Shelvin Mack and Alec Burks. It doesn't mean he's PGOTF. It's a good move really.
 
stitches said:
He helps to ruin the tank if we lose Hayward and Hill and he doesn't help with getting Hayward and Hill back. And I like him. He's awesome for his contract. I kind of want to just get him, just because of his crazy good contract, but he doesn't really help us in the ways that most matter for the franchise right now.
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We won't tank... It won't work... take it off the table... that is why losing Hayward sucks is it will lead to the treadmill.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I like Beverly, but I feel like we almost have to get Kevin Love somehow to make the team viable option for Hayward to stay (assuming we don't re-sign Hill).

Then we have a starting unit of:
Beverly
Ingles
Hayward
Love
Gobert
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If Beverley is our PG we will need more playmaking and offense-creation on the wing. Are you assuming Hood is gone in the Love trade?
 
stitches said:
Because he's not the answer?
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Well if the question is "who improves the team more immediately, Beverly or the 30th pick in the draft?", then he is the answer.

Anyway, as I've said before, DL isn't going to scrap the year and tank if they lose Hillward. They're going to try and give Rudy another shot at the playoffs. They probably don't want to carry 3 rookies anyway, and certainly not 4.
 
stitches said:
If Beverley is our PG we will need more playmaking and offense-creation on the wing. Are you assuming Hood is gone in the Love trade?
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Yes. I think that lineup has enough offense. Also, I think the Rockets want to deal Lou Williams too, so you could always take him back as a 6th man (though I'm not a huge fan of his). Or you could sign Teodosic.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
Well if the question is "who improves the team more immediately, Beverly or the 30th pick in the draft?", then he is the answer.

Anyway, as I've said before, DL isn't going to scrap the year and tank if they lose Hillward. They're going to try and give Rudy another shot at the playoffs. They probably don't want to carry 3 rookies anyway, and certainly not 4.
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Not if you have to let other players go in order to fit him under the luxury tax.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I like Beverly, but I feel like we almost have to get Kevin Love somehow to make the team viable option for Hayward to stay (assuming we don't re-sign Hill).

Then we have a starting unit of:
Beverly
Ingles
Hayward
Love
Gobert
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This is a good post. I know we don't always agree, but this is a good idea.

Beverley gives us an amazing defensive presence to go along with Gobert. We all know Love is a borderline liability on defense, but his offense is strong. If we could get those two, Love and Beverley, without sacrificing too much, we add two specialists. When you have specialists, you have matchup advantages. I could get on board with this roster pitch to Hayward.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Yes. I think that lineup has enough offense. Also, I think the Rockets want to deal Lou Williams too, so you could always take him back as a 6th man (though I'm not a huge fan of his). Or you could sign Teodosic.
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I don't like this team. It's kind of cringey IMO.
 
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