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Jazz aren't improving with the addition of a role player like Beverly.Why would Exum want to sit behind all these role players (Mack,Neto and then Beverly).I could see him wanting out of Utah no matter what it takes.
Houston is a elite team and to make him available should signal Jazz to let some other team go after him if Houston is done with him.
 
I read it was 24/3 (which I believe is basically the MLE) that Teo was looking for. I think if Utah offered him that with a clear rotation spot for him, he takes it over any comparable offer (or even higher, within reason) from a worse team.

Supposedly, CSKA just offered him the equivalent of a 5 year, 62 million deal. The only other recent talk(that I could find) links him to Chicago.

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Supposedly, CSKA just offered him the equivalent of a 5 year, 62 million deal. The only other recent talk(that I could find) links him to Chicago.

Could be a good fit for him there if the Russian money doesn't convince him to stay there.
 
Jazz aren't improving with the addition of a role player like Beverly.Why would Exum want to sit behind all these role players (Mack,Neto and then Beverly).I could see him wanting out of Utah no matter what it takes.
Houston is a elite team and to make him available should signal Jazz to let some other team go after him if Houston is done with him.

I honestly do not care what Exum wants. He gets nothing until he earns it. If competition is to tough for him than the Jazz are better off moving on from him.

Also your line of thought on elite teams trading players is terrible. For many reasons. One being that not all teams are created equal. For example the Jazz and Rockets are nothing alike. Different players would work, or not, depending on team mates, coaching, tempo, offensive and defensive sets...

This was a terrible post.
 
I honestly do not care what Exum wants. He gets nothing until he earns it. If competition is to tough for him than the Jazz are better off moving on from him.

Also your line of thought on elite teams trading players is terrible. For many reasons. One being that not all teams are created equal. For example the Jazz and Rockets are nothing alike. Different players would work, or not, depending on team mates, coaching, tempo, offensive and defensive sets...

This was a terrible post.
I agree. Exum has to earn it. He needs minutes though.

However, I do like Beverley over Hill due to his contract, defense and ability to play off guard. Harden played PG a ton this season while Beverley played elsewhere. If Exum emerges, its not like we shelf Beverley.

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This is not the type of trade that makes Hayward say - hey, what an amazing move. I totally want to play with Beverley. It's the type of move that tells Hayward we are not serious and he bolts.
 
This is not the type of trade that makes Hayward say - hey, what an amazing move. I totally want to play with Beverley. It's the type of move that tells Hayward we are not serious and he bolts.
I don't think this move would make him want to leave, I just don't see it as a move that would make him want to stay. Which may be kinda the same thing in this scenario. Also, maybe Hayward ****ing hates Patrick Beverly. Crazier things have happened.

I'm in on Teodosic.
 
I agree. Exum has to earn it. He needs minutes though.

However, I do like Beverley over Hill due to his contract, defense and ability to play off guard. Harden played PG a ton this season while Beverley played elsewhere. If Exum emerges, its not like we shelf Beverley.

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Well unfortunately for the Jazz and Exum he had his injury during prime development years. The news this offseason on Exum has been promising.

But if he wants playing time he needs to earn that as well. Nothing is given in this league.

And you can dislike that comment as well Et Tu Brute.
 
All well and good but this cannot be the extent of what the Jazz do IMO.
 
If this is the PG we go to Hayward with at 12:00AM on July 1st, you can bid Hayward a farewell.

Mentally I have already packed his bags... I don't think it looks good. REALLY HOPE I AM WRONG DOE!
 
If Hayward stays or goes, adding Beverley is a smart move. Think about it for a second. Some of you guys are okay giving Hill $20+ and Ingles $12+. Beverley makes 1/3 of what you want to give Hill and half as much as Ingles.

We are one of the few teams would could completely absorb his contract before free agency even starts. We could even add Lou Williams AND Beverley. Their combined contracts right now are $13 million and we have more than that in cap space available.

Our depth would be incredible if we added those two. Probably means we lose Ingles though.
 
Shut your filthy mouth/fingers! Haygod is staying!

I never said it... I just mentally prepared... I'm real scared/sad and just overwhelmed.

Gordon... don't do this to me.
 
I'm trying to read the tea leaves here and see what this potential inquiry means for all the other moving pieces - especially since you know the Jazz have been talking to Hayward and Hill and have a pretty good idea of where things stand.

Scenario 1a) The Jazz know that Hayward and Hill will resign if we get another major piece - Love, George, etc. In order to get one of those players, they're going to have to trade away some combination of picks, Favors, Hood, and Exum. Acquiring Beverly replaces either Exum or Hood on a cheap contract that will allow the Jazz to fit in the salaries of Hayward, Hill, and another big piece.

Scenario 1b) The Jazz know that Hayward will resign if we get another major piece like Love or George, but it can't be done while also meeting Hill's salary demands. They bring in Beverly and have Beverly and Exum fight over the PG minutes, trade a package of Hood + picks for someone like George, or Favors + picks for Love.

Scenario 2) The Jazz know that Hill is leaving and are doing anything possible to convince Hayward to stay, and Beverly is one of the few options available where they think they can stem the bleeding.

Scenario 3) The Jazz know that both Hayward and Hill are leaving but want to provide Gobert with a competent floor general in order to keep him happy while they figure out how to restructure around him.

Interestingly, I think scenario 3 is the LEAST likely here because knowledge that both Hayward and Hill are leaving means that it's going to be a long road back to competitiveness and it's important to try to strike gold in the draft rather than give them up for someone who doesn't truly move the needle on the team.

I think this is a sign that they're working on something involving Hood, Exum or both, and they're either convinced Hayward is going to stay or is close to staying, as long as they can improve the team with another borderline or actual All Star. Beverly is not that person - he's a facilitator to make the math work.

Any other scenarios I might be missing?
 
Trade for Beverly and move Hood and Exum as part of a larger deal for Love. Then re-sign Hill. Then sign Bogut.
 
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