Patrick Beverley Available

[colton]

Interesting. Here are two sources which give the higher number I was remembering:

http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/info/salary_cap - says $8.4 million (and indicates a huge jump from 2016 to 2017)

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/projecting-2017-18-nba-cap-room-under-new-deal-terms/ - also says $8.4 million


Not sure which is accurate, but my guess is the larger number.

[MENTION=3123]Cappy_Smurf[/MENTION] - Here's some more info: http://www.basketballinsiders.com/2017-nba-collective-bargaining-agreement-deal-points/

The following is a summary of the principal changes made to the NBA/NBPA Collective Bargaining Agreement, per the NBA. With limited exceptions, new CBA terms take effect on July 1, 2017.
...
Exception Amounts. The Mid-Level Exceptions and Bi-Annual Exception for 2017-18 will be increased 45% from the amounts in the 2011 CBA.

So again, I think the larger amount is correct. Larry Coon's numbers don't reflect a 45% jump in the MLE, but the $8.4 million figure is about that.

 

[SCS]

Get PBev. Let Hill go. It opens up more possibilities to improve the roster to just let Hill walk. Especially if he's gonna get 20 mill per or more.

 

[stitches]

Get PBev. Let Hill go. It opens up more possibilities to improve the roster to just let Hill walk. Especially if he's gonna get 20 mill per or more.

Once you are over the cap(we are) letting players go don't make you better. You don't get flexibility by letting Hill go.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Bev would be our 4th best player, if both Hill and Hayward re-sign with the Jazz. It' a no-brainer given his 5m/y contract if all it costs is the 30th pick.

Huh? You think Beverly is better than Ingles?

 

[Siro]

Huh? You think Beverly is better than Ingles?

Ya, probably. Even if he wasn't, he's still a bargain at his current salary.

 

[Chargers Jazz Angels]

depending on the price of Hill I would trade for Beverly.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Houston traded Corey Brewer and 28 for Lou Williams.

We could potentially get Patrick Beverley and Lou Williams for 24 or 30.. maybe 2018 OKC 1st.

Would be an amazing get.


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[Saint Cy of JFC]

Ya, probably. Even if he wasn't, he's still a bargain at his current salary.

I'd probably rate Ingles higher because he can guard more positions and is just in general a defender at a more important position.

 

[SCS]

Once you are over the cap(we are) letting players go don't make you better. You don't get flexibility by letting Hill go.

We have ways to get under the cap. Both now and in the future.

 

[BackHander]

depending on the price of Hill I would trade for Beverly.

That's the real question now. The two places I saw over paying him were Brooklyn and Philly. With them gone, I have no idea where he would go. I thought he seriously might get 25/year. I wouldn't be surprised now if it was closer to 15.

 

[stitches]

We have ways to get under the cap. Both now and in the future.

We really don't(not to the point it would matter - more than the MLE). Unless you lose both Hayward and Hill.

 

[Cappy_Smurf]

It's weird because I'm usually the optimist when it comes to Jazz expectations. I absolutely love our current team. I think it's my favorite Jazz team of all time(including the finals teams). This team has character and charm. I loved the way it was constructed and I predicted we bulldoze over 50 wins and we win a playoff series. And they freaking did while being the most injured team in the league, while suffering both Gobert and Hayward missing playoff games. I love this Jazz team. It would be so heartbreaking to see it get dissolved after just 1 year.

I think you're going into panic mode here.

Let's just say we replace Hill with Beverly. Then say we lose Hayward and replace him with someone 2/3s as good. So the team gets worse, but we can improve in other areas to cancel some of that out. Guys like Hood and Favors could certainly have better years. Any one of our young players or picks could have a breakout year. I just think you're jumping the gun on how bad the situation might be. With a healthy Hill and Favors last year, we are probably a 55-60 win team. We will surely take a step back losing Hillward, but I believe we could still put up enough of a team to have a chance at getting past the first round.

I think you have to try it for at least a year before you give up and throw in the towel.

 

[MDAV28]

Once you are over the cap(we are) letting players go don't make you better. You don't get flexibility by letting Hill go.

I agree with your statement but how are we over the cap?

 

[MDAV28]

That's the real question now. The two places I saw over paying him were Brooklyn and Philly. With them gone, I have no idea where he would go. I thought he seriously might get 25/year. I wouldn't be surprised now if it was closer to 15.

My money is on San Antonio as I think CP3 takes the money in LA

 

[stitches]

I agree with your statement but how are we over the cap?

Hayward 30M
Hill??(how much do you think he will cost? 20m? 25?) Lets say for calculation sake 20
Favors 12M
JJ 10.5
Burks 11
Gobert 21.5
Exum 5
Hood 2.5
Lyles 2.5
Diaw 7.5
Ingles ???10???
Neto 1.5
Bolomboy 1.5
2 first round picks 3M
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138.5M

If you remove Diaw and Hill, we are still over the cap, If you manage to dump Burks for nothing, we are 1M under the cap. And we still cannot do anything with that 1M of cap that we wouldn't be able to do with our exceptions.

 

[MDAV28]

If you remove Diaw and Hill, we are still over the cap, If you manage to dump Burks for nothing, we are 1M under the cap. And we still cannot do anything with that 1M of cap that we wouldn't be able to do with our exceptions.

Oh I'm talking present tense. Right now I see us at about $65.7 million in salary

 

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Oh I'm talking present tense. Right now I see us at about $65.7 million in salary

Right now we have capspace. For about 1 more week... We cannot use it for FAs though. We can only use it to absorb contracts in trades.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Why do you think Bev wouldn't help our chances. Say we get it done and then do another deal or use the diff in salary between him and Hill to improve other spots. The biggest holes we had were PG when Hill was hurt and PF. We could get a big wing or Small ball 4.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Right now we have capspace. For about 1 more week... We cannot use it for FAs though. We can only use it to absorb contracts in trades.

Patrick Beverley and Lou Williams would take up $12.5M of the $13M cap space we have available.

It's almost too perfect not to happen.


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[stitches]

Why do you think Bev wouldn't help our chances. Say we get it done and then do another deal or use the diff in salary between him and Hill to improve other spots. The biggest holes we had were PG when Hill was hurt and PF. We could get a big wing or Small ball 4.

Our chances for what? Keeping Hayward? I just don't think Hayward would see this as a step forward. I can't see a universe where he looks at Beverley on the Jazz and Hill leaving and thinks "we are getting better". It looks like a step back. What's the PF you are going to get to make up for it. The problem with the PF position was that Favors was injured, not that we didn't have anyone.