Rumor: Jazz prepared to match 'any offer' for Hayward.

[GVC]

The most other teams can offer is 25% of the salary cap with smaller raise for 4 years.

The Jazz can offer the same 25% but with bigger % raise for 5 years.

25% of cap in 2013-14 will be $13.7 Mil.

https://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q16

1. We're going into 14/15 now. The cap should increase by about $4.5mm

2. Take a look at the footnote with those max numbers. The 0-6 max is not actually 25%, but something close to 25% X 42.14/44.74.

3. (This is more for the poster you were responding to) The max is the maximum amount for the first year of the contract. If a team signs its own free agent, it can give him annual raises equal to 7.5% of the first year salary. If a team signs another team's free agent, it can give him annual raises equal to 4.5% of the first year salary.

 

[Stifle Tower]

I'm confused. I heard last season that the most we can pay Hayward is 12.8 and the longest we can sign him for is four years. I keep hearing crazy numbers on the radio of 14 & 15 mil and they keep saying five years. Is it true that we can pay up to 14 or 15 million for Hayward or is 12.8 still the max.

IINM, we can sign him for 5 years. If he signs an offer sheet, he can only sign for four. Not a huge consideration for Gordon since he is young. In fact, he might prefer just 4 years so he can get a bigger contract later. According to the cbafaq page, the maximum salary last season for a player with <6 years in the league was $13.7M. Maximum salaries are calculated as a percentage of BRI, not the cap. A 25% contract calculated against the projected 2014/15 cap would be nearly $16M. Against BRI for 2014/15, it's probably closer to $15M. Still not what we'd want to pay for Hayward, though.

https://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm

 

[JAZZGASM]

I know it has been reported that Cleveland was interested in Hayward, but Twitter is blowing up saying he is in Cleveland today and the Cavs are going to offer him to a max deal.

Eric Koreen @ekoreen 3 minutes ago
Lowry: "What's more than max?" RT @Brian Windhorst: Cavs believed to be preparing a max offer sheet for restricted free agent Gordon Hayward.



Read more: https://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz36KeWlR1r

Tony Jones @Tjonessltrib about 7 minutes ago
Looks like Gordon Hayward is getting that max offer....gonna really cost the Jazz to keep him...wow



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Cavs believed to be preparing a max offer sheet for restricted free agent Gordon Hayward, sources said. Yahoo reported he is visiting today

Read more: https://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz36KefzsbW

 

[Stifle Tower]

I know it has been reported that Cleveland was interested in Hayward, but Twitter is blowing up saying he is in Cleveland today and the Cavs are going to offer him to a max deal.

Buh-bye, Gordo. Would be foolish of Utah to match an offer sheet for $15M, 15.7M, 16.4M, $17M.

 

[LjJazzman]

Wow, I can't believe he was offered the max....

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Interesting that Cavs might offer a max deal.

Kyrie/Hayward/Wiggy/Thompson/Varejao

They just maxed Kyrie too. I don't think you can win many games if Kyrie and Hayward are your max players.

 

[LjJazzman]

Interesting that Cavs might offer a max deal.

Kyrie/Hayward/Wiggy/Thompson/Varejao

They just maxed Kyrie too. I don't think you can win many games if Kyrie and Hayward are your max players.

Huh? What does it matter who the max guys are as long as your roster is good, which clevelands is. They have this guy named wiggins for 4 years. By the time its time to max him out gtimes contract will be up. Makes sense to me.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

The last ex-Jazz players to max were DWill and Carlos Boozer. Both are considered to be among the worst contracts in the league.

 

[Litany]

This is their payback for the Boozer contract. Haha. Let his overrated *** go if it's max. Thats not even hard to decide.


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[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Huh? What does it matter who the max guys are as long as your roster is good, which clevelands is. They have this guy named wiggins for 4 years. By the time its time to max him out gtimes contract will be up. Makes sense to me.

Wiggins needs a few years to develop. They'll lose a lot of games in the meantime. I don't see them as a particularly good team.

 

[LjJazzman]

Wiggins needs a few years to develop. They'll lose a lot of games in the meantime. I don't see them as a particularly good team.

Ya wiggins needs a few years before he's great but he will still be a very good player starting next year. They almost made the playoffs last year without wiggins and deng not playing well. There will be a hugely improved team last year in the week east by adding Gtime and wiggins.

 

[JAZZGASM]

This is their payback for the Boozer contract. Haha. Let his overrated *** go if it's max. Thats not even hard to decide.


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I was thinking the same thing. I guess they don't realize we did them a favor by taking Boozer off of their hands.

If he does sign, I wonder if he will want the Jazz to match. I wouldn't want to live in Cleveland. It is a ****hole.

 

[BabyPeterzz]

Unfortunately, there are a lot of teams with cap space and too few FA's available. It's the perfect storm for overpaying players, and Gordon's agent knew this. With the cap increasing over the next few years, players who don't deserve it will be getting even bigger deals than Gordon's. You ****ing match and move on. Or you let him go and sign an inferior player to more than they deserve, but not as much as Gordon's deal. The latter is just stupid and makes no sense, I have no idea why people are advocating for it.

 

[LjJazzman]

Unfortunately, there are a lot of teams with cap space and too few FA's available. It's the perfect storm for overpaying players, and Gordon's agent knew this. With the cap increasing over the next few years, players who don't deserve it will be getting even bigger deals than Gordon's. You ****ing match and move on. Or you let him go and sign an inferior player to more than they deserve, but not as much as Gordon's deal. The latter is just stupid and makes no sense, I have no idea why people are advocating for it.

Totally agree.

 

[SojoDave]

I'm getting sick to my stomach thinking we are going to have to pay Gordon the max. The NBA blows.

 

[QuinSnydersHair]

The Cavs own their own 1st, the Heat's 1st and the Grizz protected 1st next year. Just something to think about if we do a S&T.

 

[Stifle Tower]

The last ex-Jazz players to max were DWill and Carlos Boozer. Both are considered to be among the worst contracts in the league.

HUH?
DWill was extremely productive on his max contract for Utah. He was hurt for a few weeks of the season in which he was traded. It was Brooklyn who awarded him that MAX deal afterwards that is the now one of teh worst contracts in the league.

I agree with Boozer's 6/$70M being a terrible deal. But that wasn't a MAX contract.

Now if you had included AK's MAX deal in your statement, I'd agree.


Edit: oh, I see what you are saying. It's getting a MAX contract AFTER they leave Utah. If we match the contract, Gordo is going to become an all-star in Utah. If he leaves, there is a Higher Power which punishes teams for signing away Utah players. Difference is Boozer and DWill were damaged goods with ****ty attitudes. Gordo is healthy, young and wants to achieve. He's played under a horrible coach for 3 years.

 

[SojoDave]

Cavs can offer 63.4 for 4 years. Do we really want to pay Gordon an average of 15.85 for the next four years???....I just threw up in my mouth.

 

[colton]

Hayward getting a max contract? I'll believe it when I see it. And if so, see ya later and have a good life!

 

[oldtimer]

Please, please dont match a max contract offer for hayward. Offer 12 million per year to parsons.