What's new

Shelvin Mack Option Picked Up

I'm a big fan of keeping Hill and Mack this season. I have a strong feeling that one of them will be with us on a long term deal next summer, but I think we might take Mack should Hill want too much. Either way, we need to keep both.

As for Neto, I'm not sure what to think. He shows flashes of great play, but he's so limited athletically. I'm fine with him sticking around as a 3rd option PG if he can continue to work on his shot.
 
I'm a big fan of keeping Hill and Mack this season. I have a strong feeling that one of them will be with us on a long term deal next summer, but I think we might take Mack should Hill want too much. Either way, we need to keep both.

As for Neto, I'm not sure what to think. He shows flashes of great play, but he's so limited athletically. I'm fine with him sticking around as a 3rd option PG if he can continue to work on his shot.
As long as Mack and Neto understand and are fine with what will likely be limited playing time, and there are no decent trade offers for them, why would the Jazz trade either of them? They're good depth; keep both.
 
As long as Mack and Neto understand and are fine with what will likely be limited playing time, and there are no decent trade offers for them, why would the Jazz trade either of them? They're good depth; keep both.
To free up a roster spot.
 
To free up a roster spot.

Free up a roster spot for what? They now have the depth where they don't need to cycle through Dleague guys just to find someone to fill 10 minutes in a backup role. No need to tinker with the bottom end of the roster. Its set. I'm comfortable with everyone on the roster right now in the role they are going to be expected to play.
 
Free up a roster spot for what? They now have the depth where they don't need to cycle through Dleague guys just to find someone to fill 10 minutes in a backup role. No need to tinker with the bottom end of the roster. Its set. I'm comfortable with everyone on the roster right now in the role they are going to be expected to play.

The Jazz like doing that though.
 
I'm a big fan of keeping Hill and Mack this season. I have a strong feeling that one of them will be with us on a long term deal next summer, but I think we might take Mack should Hill want too much. Either way, we need to keep both.

As for Neto, I'm not sure what to think. He shows flashes of great play, but he's so limited athletically. I'm fine with him sticking around as a 3rd option PG if he can continue to work on his shot.

I fail to grasp why any team would have a plan to keep Mack around long term. He seems just like an emergency pick up or a career back-up journeyman. He is very slow-footed and a subpar ball-handler for his position; his outside shot is iffy and his smarts - an he has some - barely compensate for those limitations. That's why he had such an underwhelming career, IMO.
 
I fail to grasp why any team would have a plan to keep Mack around long term. He seems just like an emergency pick up or a career back-up journeyman. He is very slow-footed and a subpar ball-handler for his position; his outside shot is iffy and his smarts - an he has some - barely compensate for those limitations. That's why he had such an underwhelming career, IMO.

I can't agree. He is fine back up PG maybe even top 15 back up? You can't be so mad just as you love it Neto. Brazil!
 
I can't agree. He is fine back up PG maybe even top 15 back up? You can't be so mad just as you love it Neto. Brazil!

I think Mack's higher number of assists can be explained by the much greater leeway that he seemed to have within the offense. Neto, after all, was just a rookie. The biggest knock on him was that he couldn't shoot but he did it much better than anyone could reasonably expect. I am from Brazil and I wasn't particularly excited, as a Jazz fan, when the team signed Neto, but now you can count me on his bandwagon. He seems to be one of the last remaining pass-first point guards in the league - something which any Jazz fan can appreciate - and I think he should be given a vote of confidence. The only reason to keep Mack around at this conjuncture is the fact that he is Hayward's buddy, IMO.

ThaPhunkPhenomenon, as I said before in this thread, I was not even particularly a fan of Neto's game. I even thought he would end up shooting like 32% for the year, but he surprised me a lot. As for your argument, someone who is "MAYBE a top 15 backup" on a 30-team league does or does not rank as a "career back-up journeyman" and as an "emergency pick up"? In other words, as a mediocre player? And I say that with a heavy heart. I think Mack has some Steve Nash in him - like in the way he goes into the paint - but just not enough of it.
 
For someone who might contribute more than a fourth PG.

Anyone they bring in to replace the fourth PG would probably be fourth or fifth at their position too. Except maybe at Center where I could see a possible upgrade over Pleiss or Withey. But still that would be your #3 C and your #5 big off the bench.
 
For someone who might contribute more than a fourth PG.

Development... Bolomboy, for example. Unless Hill or 'someone else' (not going to jinx THAT) gets injured, it won't matter whether Neto or Mack plays the #3PG... but it may determine who we can keep on in D-League or have on the bench for a few minutes of cleanup experience.
 
The 14th, 15th roster spots provide value for the next two or three seasons not the current season. I don't see tibor providing value now or in the future. Neto has future value because he's signed for so cheap and is a good third pg. I'd just like to get a flier and hope you end up with something like Covington who is really good on a dirt cheap contract.

One of the big mistakes gms make and people make in general is making decisions based on sinks costs. Tibor may be a backup big man but we won't find out this year... If we don't find out this year then we don't pick up his option. So what good does that spot do us?
 
Back
Top