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Smartphones to replace computers soon

Hey Salty, why don't you ever post in the Jazz forum? I always enjoyed your input. And you were one of the few who could keep S2Minem in check.
 
Have you used web-Word? I have, it can't do everything I need it to do.

The phone is not as powerful as a desktop, you bought up enterprise server, I didn't. You keep stepping my argument up a level, when I did not, to make yours more legitimate.

I have no doubt it can open a program and show us a few numbers. I have serious doubts it can handle processor and data intensive use such as multi-thousand cell spreadsheets and pivot tables or databases.

You still did not address photo or video processing programs that "casual users" are using more and more.

Sure you can always buy more external storage, but do you want to carry it all around with you. "Here is my cool new phone, and my external hard-drive that is bigger."

You keep rehashing the same arguments, setting up straw men, and not addressing the points given, just keep saying "it's not an issue". I guess you can have fun in your neat new thread. Don't want to muddy the waters with actual discussion and real responses.

(By the way, pointing out an article that says smartphones will sell a lot is hardly proof people will stop buying PC's. Did you note this paragraph or just skip it:

Smartphone sales will surpass worldwide PC sales by the end of 2011, says a report. The report, by RBC analyst Mike Abramsky, estimates that by that time shipments of both will be approaching 400 million a year.

So by that time PC's will be selling 400 MILLION UNITS. So one thing you never did was define "soon", but all of your arguments insinuate immediacy. So how long for that 400 million to drop to nothing?)
 
SaltyDawg said:
Yeah, the Atrix 4G is good enough to replace a laptop right now. I can't see any reason an average user would buy a laptop after buying that Atrix 4G.

Even so, the smartphones of next year will be twice as powerful as the Atrix 4G, and will be running full Windows 8, with the same versions of the programs the laptops run. So I really can't see why anyone would buy a laptop after buying one of those. And there will still be a full 2 years for my prediction to come true, with smartphones getting more powerful every year.
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Okay, I just wanted to make sure we were talking about the same smartphone that evidently needs "the HD multimedia dock (featuring) a power connector, three USB ports, and an HDMI output, along with an infrared remote" as well as "(connection) to a TV / monitor and keyboard / mouse" to become a fully functioning multimedia center and PC.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Have you used web-Word? I have, it can't do everything I need it to do.

The phone is not as powerful as a desktop, you bought up enterprise server, I didn't. You keep stepping my argument up a level, when I did not, to make yours more legitimate.

I have no doubt it can open a program and show us a few numbers. I have serious doubts it can handle processor and data intensive use such as multi-thousand cell spreadsheets and pivot tables or databases.

You still did not address photo or video processing programs that "casual users" are using more and more.

Sure you can always buy more external storage, but do you want to carry it all around with you. "Here is my cool new phone, and my external hard-drive that is bigger."

You keep rehashing the same arguments, setting up straw men, and not addressing the points given, just keep saying "it's not an issue". I guess you can have fun in your neat new thread. Don't want to muddy the waters with actual discussion and real responses.
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The phone is not as power as a desktop. So what? If it runs what you need, even faster than a desktop, then who cares?

The average home user is not doing multi thousand cell spreadsheets and databases. Even if they were, this phone could do it.

I did address the photo and video editing, read again.

How much external storage do you think you would need? I can't imagine any average home user would even need any. I just pointed out that the option was there anyway. And there are some pretty small flash drives and external hard drives if you wanted to carry it around with you. It would not have to be bigger than the phone, or even close to the same size as the phone.

Your whole argument just screams that you have no idea what you're talking about. You're imagining carrying a small, weaker, PC around with you and arguing that. The argument is about a more powerful phone with docking stations to give it desktop and laptop keyboards and screens- which is much faster than a PC, and uses cloud computing and cloud storage.

Go use an Android phone for a few weeks so you can get an idea of what you are talking about. I tried to give you a video to show you but you apparently refuse to watch it. If you are seriously going to debate this, at least do the basic research so you can know what you are talking about.
 
KrazeeEyezKilla said:
Okay, I just wanted to make sure we were talking about the same smartphone that evidently needs "the HD multimedia dock (featuring) a power connector, three USB ports, and an HDMI output, along with an infrared remote" as well as "(connection) to a TV / monitor and keyboard / mouse" to become a fully functioning multimedia center and PC.
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Yes, it needs that dock, and also the laptop dock which turns it into a laptop. The docks will run you $200-$300 total for both (at first, and go down from there), and the phone about $200. You'd still need a monitor, keyboard, and mouse. Say $100 for the monitor, and $30 for a good keyboard and mouse. So you're looking at $630 tops, and that gives you a 4G Android phone, a laptop, and a desktop, and you can cancel your home broadband connection and just pay the cell phone bill that you would be paying anyway. And that is only on this phone. The next phone will use the same docks and same monitor, keyboard and mouse. So the next phone will just be $200 and it will get you a new phone, and at the same time upgrade your desktop and laptop.
 
Marty McFly said:
Hey Salty, why don't you ever post in the Jazz forum? I always enjoyed your input. And you were one of the few who could keep S2Minem in check.
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SaltyDawg said:
Yes, it needs that dock, and also the laptop dock which turns it into a laptop. The docks will run you $200-$300 total for both (at first, and go down from there), and the phone about $200. You'd still need a monitor, keyboard, and mouse. Say $100 for the monitor, and $30 for a good keyboard and mouse. So you're looking at $630 tops, and that gives you a 4G Android phone, a laptop, and a desktop, and you can cancel your home broadband connection and just pay the cell phone bill that you would be paying anyway. And that is only on this phone. The next phone will use the same docks and same monitor, keyboard and mouse. So the next phone will just be $200 and it will get you a new phone, and at the same time upgrade your desktop and laptop.
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People like options. Convenience. Comfort. Otherwise, the experience becomes a chore for them. This is why most people have two, three, heck, even four or more televisions in their homes. It's why many still have a landline even though they and their partner both have cell phones. It's the reason, many people may have a PC but also have a laptop to call their own. I can bring my laptop anywhere in the house, open it, enter my password and voila! How can I do that with a smartphone? I should carry the keyboard, mouse and monitor from my second bedroom into my master bedroom, hook everything up, and straddle the monitor between my knees?
 
KrazeeEyezKilla said:
People like options. Convenience. Comfort. Otherwise, the experience becomes a chore for them. This is why most people have two, three, heck, even four or more televisions in their homes. It's why many still have a landline even though they and their partner both have cell phones. It's the reason, many people may have a PC but also have a laptop to call their own. I can bring my laptop anywhere in the house, open it, enter my password and voila! How can I do that with a smartphone? I should carry the keyboard, mouse and monitor from my second bedroom into my master bedroom, hook everything up, and straddle the monitor between my knees?
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You would put the phone into the laptop dock and voila, you have a laptop.
 
SaltyDawg said:
Correct. You obviously didn't watch the video, lol.
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Did you? With the Atrix hooked up to the laptop docking station, he's using a laptop in every single second of that part of the tutorial. With it hooked up to the HD docking station, it required the use of a free standing monitor.

Either way, the "smart"phone needed more than just a docking station or some cords to be fully functioning. Either way, you still need a laptop (if hooking it up to the laptop docking station) or a free standing monitor and keyboard if hooked up to the HD docking station, thus making it either far from mobile or a pain in the *** to use it anywhere you want.
 
KrazeeEyezKilla said:
Did you? With the Atrix hooked up to the laptop docking station, he's using a laptop in every single second of that part of the tutorial. With it hooked up to the HD docking station, it required the use of a free standing monitor.

Either way, the "smart"phone needed more than just a docking station or some cords to be fully functioning. Either way, you still need a laptop (if hooking it up to the laptop docking station) or a free standing monitor and keyboard if hooked up to the HD docking station, thus making it either far from mobile or a pain in the *** to use it anywhere you want.
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Watch it again. There is no laptop at any point in that video. What you apparently thought was a laptop is actually the dock.

So, again, why would anyone buy a laptop if they already owned that Atrix?

Gotta love it when people argue things they obviously know nothing about...

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I would buy a laptop because I like a screen bigger than 5 inches.

The argument here is semantics. What you see as a "dock" so it has a bigger screen as a laptop, others see as, well, a laptop.
 
SaltyDawg said:
Watch it again. There is no laptop at any point in that video. What you apparently thought was a laptop is actually the dock.

So, again, why would anyone buy a laptop if they already owned that Atrix?

Gotta love it when people argue things they obviously know nothing about...

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Who's cell phone service do I need to buy the Atrix?
 
LogGrad98 said:
I would buy a laptop because I like a screen bigger than 5 inches.

The argument here is semantics. What you see as a "dock" so it has a bigger screen as a laptop, others see as, well, a laptop.
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I was going to point this out but it was obvious Salty would just say, "It's not a laptop, it's a docking station. Look at what it's called." But yeah, it's a ****ing laptop.
 
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