So I want to talk about the Mormons

[Gameface]

I thought it was widely speculated that Joseph Smith was a puppet and the BoM was written by the Freemasons.

And speculated that it was the freemasons who ultimately killed him.

 

[pickledXgrandma]

Hasn't the BOM been edited like 2000 times or something?

 

[MoreFeasts]

Question about Utah Mormons: What is their typical ethnic heritage?

 

[Beantown]

My limited understanding also includes that Joseph didn't 'create' (with all respect to followers of the Mormon faith) the works alone.

There are no real reports of this at all. The only thing you might be thinking is the theory that Sidney Rigdon was the one that wrote the BOM. But the dates don't match up at all. Of course Sidney never claimed that ever.

This is a fairly new theory but its only because Sidney was the only person in church with Education. He was a pastor of another church before converting over.

 

[Beantown]

I thought it was widely speculated that Joseph Smith was a puppet and the BoM was written by the Freemasons.

There are a million theories but this one makes no sense. Smith wasn't involved with the free mason well after the BOM was published and the church as already setup.

 

[Beantown]

And speculated that it was the freemasons who ultimately killed him.

This one has some truth. Freemason's believe he ripped off their rituals for the temple.

 

[franklin]

I thought it was widely speculated that Joseph Smith was a puppet and the BoM was written by the Freemasons.

Oh, the illuminati did it.

 

[Stoked]

Question about Utah Mormons: What is their typical ethnic heritage?

The majority of Mormons in Utah are white. Therefore you can trace their ancestry back to Europe. England, Germany, Belgium, Wales...

Recently there has been an increase in the hispanic population of Utah Mormons.

 

[Beantown]

this is the reason i initially left the church, and surprisingly is also the reason that i subsequently returned.

explain.

 

[Beantown]

Also Joseph received the gun earlier that day from a visitor.There are also reports that the mob was scared off by thunder and lighting right after Smith was killed.

 

[scootsy]

explain.

1 John 5:9

 

[Gameface]

Also Joseph received the gun earlier that day from a visitor.There are also reports that the mob was scared off by thunder and lighting right after Smith was killed.

Reports or tall tales?

 

[scootsy]

Reports or tall tales?

Tall tales.

Same as that book about the fate of the persecuters of Joseph smith which said that every mob member died a horrific death not too long after.

 

[Deleted member 848]

Tall tales.

Same as that book about the fate of the persecuters of Joseph smith which said that every mob member died a horrific death not too long after.

So Joseph smith WAS in the Illuminati then. What a badass. I wonder if Young Money Wayne is related to him.

 

[bigb]

The majority of Mormons in Utah are white. Therefore you can trace their ancestry back to Europe. England, Germany, Belgium, Wales...

Recently there has been an increase in the hispanic population of Utah Mormons.

There are a lot of Pacific Islanders as well: Tongan, Samoan, etc.

 

[HipHopAnonymous]

How many of you guys are returned missionaries? How many are still actively involved & still believe?

 

[colton]

My limited understanding also includes that Joseph didn't 'create' (with all respect to followers of the Mormon faith) the works alone.

I disagree. I've read lots of theories but they don't hold water in my opinion. The reasons are too many for me to list right now. But my conclusion is that if it was a fraud, it was something Joseph Smith did all by himself.

 

[colton]

this is the reason i initially left the church, and surprisingly is also the reason that i subsequently returned.

That's a very interesting statement. Care to elaborate on how the Book of Abraham prompted you to return?

Edit: Ah, I see you replied to someone else's question about this already, above.

 

[colton]

Hasn't the BOM been edited like 2000 times or something?

No, not really. The people who claim there have been "thousands of changes" are referring to minor punctuation or spelling changes. And some only slightly less minor changes to fix errors that crept into the printer's manuscript and/or subsequent editions, to bring it back more in line with Joseph's scribe's handwritten copy. That type of thing.

I believe the number of substantive changes can be counted on one hand. There was a recent changing of the word "white" to the word "pure" in one spot, to avoid racial overtones. ("White" in Joseph Smith's day did have "pure" as a definition, if you check the old dictionaries.) And there was a "Benjamin" -> "Mosiah" word change somewhere along the line, which in my opinion was an error by Mormon himself. (Or maybe it was Mosiah -> Benjamin.) And maybe two or three other changes like that.

 

[colton]

Question about Utah Mormons: What is their typical ethnic heritage?

Aside from the recent Hispanic immigrants, most are northern European. I'm nearly 100% British Isles. My wife is British Isles and Scandinavian. I think we're fairly typical.