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A proper armed guard presence will undoubtedly reduce these incidences or at minimum the casualties.

All the crap you have to through at the airport has reduced casualties inside the airports, too. It's also made it so guys blow themselves up and kill people before the security point(Brussels) or just rent/steal a truck and mow people down someplace where they don't have people strip searching you(pretty much everywhere).

What it hasn't done is stop people from wanting to kill dozens of people for a cause.
 
I’m curious about what some of you envision will happen at a high school:

1. How many security guards are necessary to man entrances in a medium sized high school of 2,000 students every morning? Do we understand the manpower necessary for this? Who pays for this? For Most districts in America, this isn’t financially feasible.

2. Since school starts at varying times for students depending on extra curricular activities and academic needs, what happens if the band teacher has an early morning rehearsal? What if a student wants to come early to work with his/her math teacher?

Additionally, most teachers arrive one hour or less before the bell rings. That’s their contract time. If we want them to arrive earlier to assist with security, you’re going to have to compensate them with the understanding that you’re diverting time, money, and energy away from their true focus, teaching. Most students arrive 20 minutes or less before the bell rings. If you’re going to move 2,000 students through a handful of exits and scanners, you’re going to encounter massive tardiness in first period. This means that the bell schedule must significantly change for all schools. For most districts, changing the bell schedule just isn’t financially feasible.

3. What happens to late arrivals and check ins? Must a security guard man the entrance and metal detector all day everyday? How wouldn’t that be a waste of resources?

4. Since most schools have no way of preventing students from leaving campus during lunch, what happens once lunch ends and class periods after lunch begins? Do we understand the logistical nightmare of trying to start post lunch classes while scanning kids back in after re-entering the building? After a fire alarm is pulled and everyone evacuates, have we thought about the delay of having to re-examine every student upon re-entry? When are students supposed to learn?

5. Many schools struggle just to afford secretaries, buy new copiers, and pay for enough desks for their kids. Where’s this security money coming from? What other industrialized countries can we look at to pattern this security measures over? Who deals with the liability issues that will undoubtedly occur when students accuse security personnel of confiscating their personal property or violating them physically (as we have seen with TSA)? Administration officials are already dealing with enough. For most schools, the measures suggested by the NRA are mocked by educators. And for good reason. Those who think any of these NRA inspired suggestions are good ideas, please visit your local middle or high school. Take a few days off for work and shadow the principal or a teacher.

Do we really want to make all of these drastic changes to the education system without a full guarantee that this will improve security and not hinder academic outcomes?

Why not just repeat what has been done in literally every single industrialized country and regulate these penis enhancers for stupid white republicans?
 
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All the crap you have to through at the airport has reduced casualties inside the airports, too. It's also made it so guys blow themselves up and kill people before the security point(Brussels) or just rent/steal a truck and mow people down someplace where they don't have people strip searching you(pretty much everywhere).

What it hasn't done is stop people from wanting to kill dozens of people for a cause.

Can't wait to live in a society where we get pat down to go to the grocery store. #freedom
 
All the crap you have to through at the airport has reduced casualties inside the airports, too. It's also made it so guys blow themselves up and kill people before the security point(Brussels) or just rent/steal a truck and mow people down someplace where they don't have people strip searching you(pretty much everywhere).

What it hasn't done is stop people from wanting to kill dozens of people for a cause.

This is exactly the point the pro-gun crowd has been making for decades.

America has a violence and mental stability problem for unknown reasons. Solving that needs to be the focus.
 
This is exactly the point the pro-gun crowd has been making for decades.

America has a violence and mental stability problem for unknown reasons. Solving that needs to be the focus.

It's not an unknown reason at all. It's the culture of guns and their phallic worship. It's the very argument the pro-gun crowd is offering that's the cause of all this to begin with. The idea that the solution to everything is a "good guy" with a gun. What do you think all these shooters think themselves to be? They all think they're the good guy with a gun righting some perceived wrong. That's the "American way." That's what media and society have been teaching people for decades. That's exactly what the most rabid defenders of the Second tell you. We need guns to prevent our other rights being taken away. By shadowy forces. Well, aren't most of these shooters doing exactly that? Solving problems and dealing with perceived threats against them with guns.

Call it what you want. The cult of the gun, the frontier mentality, the "live free or die" syndrome. America has had this obsession with a lone righteous man fighting against a threat to him and his with a help of his trusty gun forever. How do you propose that mentality be changed without limiting the number of guns out there?
 
It's not an unknown reason at all. It's the culture of guns and their phallic worship. It's the very argument the pro-gun crowd is offering that's the cause of all this to begin with. The idea that the solution to everything is a "good guy" with a gun. What do you think all these shooters think themselves to be? They all think they're the good guy with a gun righting some perceived wrong. That's the "American way." That's what media and society have been teaching people for decades. That's exactly what the most rabid defenders of the Second tell you. We need guns to prevent our other rights being taken away. By shadowy forces. Well, aren't most of these shooters doing exactly that? Solving problems and dealing with perceived threats against them with guns.

Call it what you want. The cult of the gun, the frontier mentality, the "live free or die" syndrome. America has had this obsession with a lone righteous man fighting against a threat to him and his with a help of his trusty gun forever. How do you propose that mentality be changed without limiting the number of guns out there?

Excellent post. One of the best in the entire thread
 
This is exactly the point the pro-gun crowd has been making for decades.

America has a violence and mental stability problem for unknown reasons. Solving that needs to be the focus.

Just a guess, but I think it fairly logical that our gun culture has played its part in our violence and mental stability issues, and certainly our suicide rates. The government has avoided studying gun violence causes, so we don't know for sure. Perhaps if we could admit that we have a problem and are willing to look at ALL possible causes, we might be able to find a solution.
 
Just a guess, but I think it fairly logical that our gun culture has played its part in our violence and mental stability issues, and certainly our suicide rates. The government has avoided studying gun violence causes, so we don't know for sure. Perhaps if we could admit that we have a problem and are willing to look at ALL possible causes, we might be able to find a solution.

Yep. NRA lobbied to prevent the CDC from doing comprehensive studies, like what you’re suggesting. Now why would the altruistic NRA do that?
 
One of the problems faced with arming teachers is that insurance companies are threatening to significantly raise their rates if this happens.

It’s... almost as if adding more guns to society will make it less safe...
 
"Children under 5 will also have elevated levels of the pheromone called "Blink-182", produced by the part of the liver called the "Rita Ora". This allows nerve reflexes to travel along the "Cardi B" neural pathway to the "Wiz Khalifa" 40% faster, saving time and saving lives."
 
I'm not sure it's unrelated but...



I feel like everyone should know america, Canada, and Mexico at least.

I would not be very good at this either but I could definitely get those three and Australia, Brazil, Italy (it looks like a boot for God’s sake) Chile, and New Zealand.
Could probably name a few more but not much more than that.

Stupid that people can’t even get America and that they don’t know that Africa is a continent.

I wonder how people in other countries would do on this.
 
Also I’m guessing (hoping) that they interviewed people who knew some of the countries but just chose not to show those ones since they are not funny.
 
Also I’m guessing (hoping) that they interviewed people who knew some of the countries but just chose not to show those ones since they are not funny.

I’d bet on it. These videos got through extensive editing to remove anyone who isn’t a total idiot.
 
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