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Thank God for Trump reality thread

If I was trying to take a situation where illegal immigration was essentially flat coming from Mexico and turn it into a situation where people would be willing to risk life and limb to get to the U.S. let me wonder what I would do.

I would charge tariffs on all goods coming from that country to try to destroy employment opportunities.

I would deport a bunch of people who's life exists here and only here for as long as they can remember.

I would charge a tax on money people in this country send to family in that country.

Then I'd build a wall between me and that country and act like I had done everything I could to prevent this new wave of mass illegal immigration of the worst kind of people, you know, rape, drugs, stealing, etc. And that it will require even greater measures to turn back this tide of horror descending upon us.

Having limits on currency exports or fees for sending dollars abroad has been done before. Sure the fees tend to create smuggling or black market operations, but where there is a huge disparity in the buying power of the money across a border, those fees would not need to amount to a reason not to pay the tax/fee and send the money legally.

Look, all people have to do anywhere, anytime, to survive. . . . is roll outta bed and go do something worthwhile.

If Mexico was an island, and there was no other country on the planet, people there would find a way.

If we impose legal penalties on employers who defy the law and hire illegals, and throw people in jail if they aid and abet folks without a legal status.... you know, give them room and board, or transportation, and jail illegals and deport them, the logic all changes. People will find something else to do that isn't that much trouble. Go get in line at the embassy or consulate and ask for proper papers. Lots of employers here would be able to do well hiring legal foreign workers.

The drug runners and gang bangers might not be willing to do that. Then we could focus on the criminal element, and still let a lot of good people come here for a better life.

Imposing a tax or fee on money exports has been done before. where there is a huge disparity in the purchase power of the money across a border, those charges might amount to an incentive for smugglers/black market operations, but if they are reasonable fees and laws commensurate for evading them, many people would choose the legal way.

We need to disincentivize the pattern that damages our sovereignty as a nation.
 
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naah whoever puts in universal healthcare i dont care.


i would be ok with obamacare if it was not mandatory!

i mean i dont like pepsi, but i dont mind it cus i am not forced at gunpoint to BUY it!

What the hell do you care? You arent american and dont have to buy anything.
 
What the hell do you care? You arent american and dont have to buy anything.

well we have something comparable here. so speaking from experience. i loe liberty my liberty is exceeding borders.

aas i poste din one of these threads earlier i am glad trump won. because as a jew it is the best outcome for israel and antisemitism in the world. I DO CARE ABOUT THAT!


but other than that i got opinions! and i think imho if reps introduce "insertname"care i would critize it if it is mandatory and forces people into it!

we have same **** here. i dont wnana be forced to pay for something.



as i said i dont like pepsi, i usually don't tend to criticize it!(except to make an example now) now i am not against it. because people obviously buy it! but when government forces me to buy pepsi i would criticize it!
 
atleast you liberals must be happy tpp is GONE

TPP was already gone. It never got ratified in congress. So his executive order was a publicity stunt. He looks tough on trade and all he did was kick a dead horse.

His actions on Mexico are idiotic at best. As is his flirtation with torture black sites and PP.
 
TPP was already gone. It never got ratified in congress. So his executive order was a publicity stunt. He looks tough on trade and all he did was kick a dead horse.

His actions on Mexico are idiotic at best. As is his flirtation with torture black sites and PP.

waterboarding is not torture. its a cake walk!


and it kinda works after getting waterboarded for 30 minutes you give up information. but not all kinda information can be gotten from waterboarding
 
I thought it was alternative news. Or was it fake facts? Fake alternatives? Hmm.

someone pls ask LogGrad which news outlets aren't "fake news" in his eyes. Cuz he sure posts links from some hilariously bad ones.
 
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Here is what Mark Levin, predictably, is saying about the stupid tariff.

President Donald Trump has floated the idea of a 20 percent tax on all Mexican imports*as a way to reduce America's trade deficit and fund the U.S.-Mexico border wall.
The problem? As Conservative Review Editor-in-Chief Mark Levin pointed out on his radio show Thursday night, if the government imposes a 20 percent tax on the southern imports, it's not Mexicans or their government that'd be paying the tax — YOU ARE.
Listen:



Levin and Brat expose cronies and destructive protectionist tariffs

“Mexico doesn’t get taxed on anything! Not a thing! Zero!” Levin said. “These are taxes on the American people — on the American worker.”
- See more at: https://www.conservativereview.com/...mpaign=newslettertraffic#sthash.B1m6bVO7.dpuf

not sure did I get a link in there. Is from Conservative Review. I don't find much I care to call "fake news" there, but that's because I like it?
 
waterboarding is not torture. its a cake walk!


and it kinda works after getting waterboarded for 30 minutes you give up information. but not all kinda information can be gotten from waterboarding

At these black sites we are not really sure what goes on. It could be far more than water boarding. Also whether it is torture or not is a hotly contested issue.

But I am not a supporter of compromising our values for security. If we fundamentally change who we are as a society than we are letting those who wish to destroy us win. They are destroying who we are.

Also with waterboarding they can get you to tell them pretty much any damn thing they want.
 
well we have something comparable here. so speaking from experience. i loe liberty my liberty is exceeding borders.

aas i poste din one of these threads earlier i am glad trump won. because as a jew it is the best outcome for israel and antisemitism in the world. I DO CARE ABOUT THAT!


but other than that i got opinions! and i think imho if reps introduce "insertname"care i would critize it if it is mandatory and forces people into it!

we have same **** here. i dont wnana be forced to pay for something.



as i said i dont like pepsi, i usually don't tend to criticize it!(except to make an example now) now i am not against it. because people obviously buy it! but when government forces me to buy pepsi i would criticize it!

its ok to have opinions, its just humorous when you complain about paying for something you dont have to. worry about your own country and your tax.
paying for health care has nothing to do with your security or freedom.
 
At these black sites we are not really sure what goes on. It could be far more than water boarding. Also whether it is torture or not is a hotly contested issue.

But I am not a supporter of compromising our values for security. If we fundamentally change who we are as a society than we are letting those who wish to destroy us win. They are destroying who we are.

Also with waterboarding they can get you to tell them pretty much any damn thing they want.

depending on what kinda torture i am for it!
 
meaning Waterboarding is harmless. i went through it!


and if feminist say if you dont have a vagina you dont get to make laws about it.
so please go through waterboarding before having an opinion :P

Uh...no?
 

the action or practice of inflicting severe pain on someone as a punishment or in order to force them to do or say something.
"the torture of political prisoners"

waterboarding is NOT PAIN!

thousands of people in the army get waterboarded as part of training. please jsut go through 3 seconds of waterboarding!

i have been through it about maybe 20-25 times. it's a cake walk!


but seems like there will be no waterboarding, because trump will follow Pompeo and Mattis their lead, and it aint happening under their watch.
 
the action or practice of inflicting severe pain on someone as a punishment or in order to force them to do or say something.
"the torture of political prisoners"

waterboarding is NOT PAIN!

thousands of people in the army get waterboarded as part of training. please jsut go through 3 seconds of waterboarding!

i have been through it about maybe 20-25 times. it's a cake walk!


but seems like there will be no waterboarding, because trump will follow Pompeo and Mattis their lead, and it aint happening under their watch.



how are things in your country? give us your slant on Holland.

Do they waterboard?
 
how are things in your country? give us your slant on Holland.

Do they waterboard?

not really my country brother. i live here and there a true nomad. will got out of this country for a few months. i care less about this countries policies. because they affect Israel less then the USA
 
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