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The Ridiculous Speculation about the Hayward Sign and Trade

Ah yes... the return of Log...

Can someone post a gif of that beautiful log? Log has posted more times in his own thread than everyone else's posts in his thread combined. DEFINITELY LOG WORTHY!
 
If it comes down to Haywood to celtics and jazz left with nothing in return or Haywood and a protected 1st and we get Crowder then I would give up the 1st.
 
Smart is a special defensive talent &, while he certainly has his flaws, we need any/every asset we can get at this point...even if only to flip for additional assets.

We can't afford to pass on talent due to fit. The goal should be to acquire as much as possible & sort the roster out when the time comes. It's going to take some smooth operating from DL to mitigate the damage. Luckily, we have a GM who appears capable of doing so. How DL handles this situation moving forward will be very revealing.
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
I'm starting a new thread because I keep hearing all sorts of ridiculous speculation about the Jazz giving up players for Crowder.

First of all, Ainge is trying to shed salary so he's not going to add players

Second of all, I wouldn't trade Hood straight up for Crowder, and the Jazz aren't trading Favors unless he has asked to be traded. Some of the ridiculous crap I hear drives me batty

Third, I would stand pat and insist they give us Crowder period and they get to sign Hayward, and if they won't do that, then they can go find another trade partner. Yes, Crowder is a good player but he's no All-Star and the Jazz would be very foolish to help out Boston after they just fleeced us.
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Thank God you're not DL, and stop making new threads. You've made enough in the last few days to cover you for a year.
 
Of course we have leverage. Boston is the one that needs a partner. We can just walk away and lick our wounds. No sense adding insult to injury. If we can get Crowder, great. If not, tell Danny to find someone else. The Jazz would be crazy to give up anything more. They already lost Hayward. And CS says I shouldn't be GM. Oh, so let's add Favors into the mix like you suggested or Hood. WTF?
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
Of course we have leverage. Boston is the one that needs a partner. We can just walk away and lick our wounds. No sense adding insult to injury. If we can get Crowder, great. If not, tell Danny to find someone else. The Jazz would be crazy to give up anything more. They already lost Hayward. And CS says I shouldn't be GM. Oh, so let's add Favors into the mix like you suggested or Hood. WTF?
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Nobody has suggested giving up any players that I have seen (other than Celtics fans). It would likely be giving up a pick for Crowder.
 
I don't get how so many people think we lost Hayward so we should get Crowder just for facilitating the trade. They are separate transactions. He decided to go there and now while we may have slight leverage and be able to get a slight discount on Crowder it isn't going to be for free. If Hayward wanted the full max so we had to do a sign and trade for him to get paid sure but that isn't the case.

The fact that Hayward was here last year means nothing and it isn't a terrible contract they are getting rid of. It's an asset that if we end up with for anything less than close to market value they are doing us a favor that they don't have to. It would help Hayward save face a little and that's about it. Boston owes us nothing including any favors.
 
MattNie said:
I don't get how so many people think we lost Hayward so we should get Crowder just for facilitating the trade. They are separate transactions. He decided to go there and now while we may have slight leverage and be able to get a slight discount on Crowder it isn't going to be for free. If Hayward wanted the full max so we had to do a sign and trade for him to get paid sure but that isn't the case.

The fact that Hayward was here last year means nothing and it isn't a terrible contract they are getting rid of. It's an asset that if we end up with for anything less than close to market value they are doing us a favor that they don't have to. It would help Hayward save face a little and that's about it. Boston owes us nothing including any favors.
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That isn't the point. Boston needs us to facilitate the trade, to shed salary. We are the ones doing them the favor, that's why I don't think we should give them anything extra. So, it really isn't two separate transactions. Boston needs to shed salary to be able to sign Hayward.
 
sgjazzfan said:
Nobody has suggested giving up any players that I have seen (other than Celtics fans). It would likely be giving up a pick for Crowder.
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Somewhere in that long thread I saw people talking about giving up Hood, even Favors, to get Crowder. Maybe it was Celtic fans trolling. But it seems there is a lot of Favors hate on here, or at least people who have given up on him.
 
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