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This is the MAN we need at #3 - C Jonas Valanciunas

These are more recent 2010-2011 highlight videos of JV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLa5yFCF6Go&feature=player_embedded#at=452
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYAiv2EOsx8&feature=player_embedded#at=44
 
I'm just grabbing things I think are interesting from realgm. There are some people over there that have really followed JV's game.

Kirsten19 wrote:His stock is clearly falling. Espn and Chad Ford have him projected at 8th.
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Ford said he'll slip because of his buyout. Regardless, I hope he does fall if he declares. I don't like the prospect of a young player like Valanciunas going so high. He's certainly a project, and I don't want people to start calling him a bust in his first year. People who don't know anything about Valanciunas (aside from Youtube videos) will be quick to judge. Simple as that.......

Looking at the draft order, I hope he goes to either Jazz (12), Cavaliers (8), Suns (13), or Rockets (14). I think those teams would be the best for his development.
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You can't teach height, and it looks like the kid busts his *** on both ends. On the defensive end, Jazz fans have been watching disinterested/uninspired forwards and centers for too long, so this JV seems to be getting people excited.
 
Fakers Luck said:
You can't teach height, and it looks like the kid busts his *** on both ends. On the defensive end, Jazz fans have been watching disinterested/uninspired forwards and centers for too long, so this JV seems to be getting people excited.
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If were looking for this then just draft the best at it....Biyombo.
 
I'm not sure if the best part of those highlights were the wolf in armor humping/shaking it's "tail" or whatever is going on, or the biggest bottle of champagne ever.
 
When I read what people and scouts report re JV I'm getting all pumped up and excited bu then I watch his highlights and I'm like WTF?!
 
Someone said Kanter dominated Valanciunas at the U-18 euro championships. I checked it up and it's true. But it was back in 2008 (or was it 08/09???). Last time JV played he was the MVP (I believe Kanter didn't play then).
 
That should be me, Lion's Roar. It was just a fact. Having said that I believe JV is quite a solid prospect. he was 2nd rebounds per minute in Euroleague.
If anybody is interested, here is a thread from interbasket.net on comparison of biggest Euro prospects. Comments from guys who have watched these guys in 100+ games.
 
PKM said:
I am downloading a torrent of the final matchup between JV and Kanter in the 2009 Euro u18 championships. I'll report what I see.

I do know that in this game Kanter had 35 pts and 19 rebounds. (I believe JV had 20 and 8, but double-checking)

In Kanter's final two games in the u18 euro championships, Kanter totalled 67 points and 44 rebounds. Not trying to be a homer, but sheesh it seems some should take these numbers at least somewhat seriously. He did, after all, play AGAINST JV in this matchup.
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This was my OP from Page 3. Basically Kanter dominated until the day he left .. making room for someone else to emerge.
 
One thing I really liked about Kanter in the combine was the way he uses his elbows in the post. Gran Fraschillapointed this out and he was right. He wasn't just leaning into his defender he was using his elbows to limit the position of his defender which was pretty impressive for a 18 year old kid.

Somdays I wake up and think the Jazz should take Kanter, somedays JV, somedays Knight. Who knows?
 
The best part of those highlights was the hos dancing...and even they weren't all that special...

Just like Kanter, he plays like a timid little bitch whenever anyone is around him down low. That won't work in the NBA. A 7 footer on a wide open cut to the basket for a FINGER ROLL!?!? Mother****in pass.
 
I admit to be a UK fan, but I feel I'm fair in my assessment of the players (read anything I've posted regarding Knight, i.e.). For you ^^ to say Kanter is a 'timid little bitch' is ALL of uninformed, incorrect, and amateurish (even for a message board).

To the contrary, Kanter LOVES contact, loves to give the beatdown to whomever is trying to guard him. He wants to be a pro-wrestler after his bb career (I know, I know, but I do think it's funny and shows off his HUGE personality) and he takes that approach on the court. I'm no scout, I don't get paid to evaluate talent ... but I have seen (in person, live, and on the court) Kanter play. I've done the same with Cousins, Nazr Mohammed, Jamaal Magloire, Daniel Orton, etc. I, personally, would take Kanter #1 out of any center I've seen play (at UK) in the past 20 years, and I am dead serious.

Timid little bitch he is not.
 
Levenspiel said:
That should be me, Lion's Roar. It was just a fact. Having said that I believe JV is quite a solid prospect. he was 2nd rebounds per minute in Euroleague.
If anybody is interested, here is a thread from interbasket.net on comparison of biggest Euro prospects. Comments from guys who have watched these guys in 100+ games.
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Love the thread on interbasket.net. Thanks Levenspiel..
 
PKM said:
I'm no scout, I don't get paid to evaluate talent ... but I have seen (in person, live, and on the court) Kanter play. I've done the same with Cousins, Nazr Mohammed, Jamaal Magloire, Daniel Orton, etc. I, personally, would take Kanter #1 out of any center I've seen play (at UK) in the past 20 years, and I am dead serious.
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PKM's informed opinion is one I've come to respect.
 
PKM said:
Kanter LOVES contact,
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Okay dude, we know you ONLY like Porkie2 in the draft (not that I don't, incidentally). So, because of your love for DWilldos you've become a expert on anything anti everyone else in the draft. Just get over it, Jazz aren't getting him, save the post if you like.
 
PKM said:
Okay dude, we know you ONLY like Porkie2 in the draft (not that I don't, incidentally). So, because of your love for DWilldos you've become a expert on anything anti everyone else in the draft. Just get over it, Jazz aren't getting him, save the post if you like.
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Not anti-everyone, just anti-weak *** big men.
 
JohnStockalypse said:
Not anti-everyone, just anti-weak *** big men.
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I'm convinced you're trolling. There's nothing to suggest that Kanter is a weak big man. First you pulled up bench press which is stupid, because people that are 6'11 have long *** arms and have the raise the bar twice as much as other people to do one life. And bench doesn't matter in basketball. He's 260 with 6% body fat. He's not weak and if you look at his tape he plays physically.
 
Hantlers said:
I'm convinced you're trolling. There's nothing to suggest that Kanter is a weak big man. First you pulled up bench press which is stupid, because people that are 6'11 have long *** arms and have the raise the bar twice as much as other people to do one life. And bench doesn't matter in basketball. He's 260 with 6% body fat. He's not weak and if you look at his tape he plays physically.
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I'm not the one who posted the bench press numbers...

So anyone else can post how great Kanter is all the time but I can't disagree? Get the **** outta here you clown!

When I watch the highlights he looks awkward with the ball in his hands. He rarely makes an authoritative low post move against a defender.

I'll give you this, if the choice is between Kanter and that deer on ice JV, I'll take Kanter.
 
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