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Through Jesus, I am defined by being God's child.

Stickler said:
I have honestly never met a Mormon who doesn't believe in dinosaurs. :) That strikes me as being super unusual!
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See my above quote: She's a tard. If you really want to bang your head into the wall, ask her about evolution and/or politics. Maybe that's why we Ying and Yang so well?


My Wife > Science
 
Stickler said:
Nowhere in my post did I insult your intelligence or say I was smarter than you. I thought it was hilarious that you guys were talking to each other as if it was amazing to discover that there is anybody else who believes what almost everybody believes. I honestly laughed, in a good-natured way. Not an angry way. What is it that you think I am blind to?
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Maybe I don't get out much and talk to very many people about this subject, so it is enjoyable to me.
I was just giving you crap because you thought it would be funny to rain on someone else's parade when you didn't have to.
Notice the the lame smiley face in that post. On my make believe planet, that means I am just messing around.
 
Stickler said:
I have honestly never met a Mormon who doesn't believe in dinosaurs. :) That strikes me as being super unusual!
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Everyone should. We get to watch one coach the Jazz every single game.
 
Stickler said:
I'm not angry at all.
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My bad, then.

NUMBERICA said:
If god works through science, where does evolution fall into all of that? As it pertains to all species, including humans? Are the 6 days to create reality 6 days literally or 6 general increments that span billions of years?
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Much like Spazz, I am not entirely clear on this. Evolution is obviously occurring, so I assume that is a method in God's repertoire. As has been pointed out several times - from both sides of the discussion - the Bible is a compilation of the thoughts of men and therefore reflects their understanding. It's based in faith in God, but is not his work directly. I would guess that the 6 days is really just a device to help men understand the overall creation story. Kind of like dividing earth's history into geological periods. I am also pretty sure - and this has been touched on also - that the stories in the Bible are based in fact, but probably don't represent exact accounts of the actual history. Stories that have been passed along and/or recorded after the manner of the author's interpretation.

But I pretty much work under the assumption that God knows what he's doing and man, for the most part, doesn't.
 
VINYLONE said:
Through Atheism, I am defined as Nature's child. A dynamic entity capable of great and beautiful things.
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honz said:
Through life, I am defined as a source of energy. How I choose to use, manipulate, and distribute that energy is up to me.
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chitownjazz said:
Through biology, I am defined as my mother and father's child. A dynamic entity capable of genetically limited actions that may or may not be great and beautiful depending on circumstances.
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There is no emotion, there is peace. There is no ignorance, there is knowledge. There is no passion, there is serenity. There is no chaos, there is harmony. There is no death, there is The Force.
 
For those that don't believe in God, do you believe in a type of afterlife or seeing family members/loved ones again? Or is death the end of everything?
 
Beantown said:
For those that don't believe in God, do you believe in a type of afterlife or seeing family members/loved ones again? Or is death the end of everything?
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End of everything? End of consciousness perhaps. Assuming you're buried, your body will decompose into the soil fertilize the ground and allow for more life to grow.
 
JJ Rage said:
End of everything? End of consciousness perhaps. Assuming you're buried, your body will decompose into the soil fertilize the ground and allow for more life to grow.
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Most people are buried in caskets or creamated so that doesnt happen.
 
Regardless of your personal beliefs cherish your life, your families lives, your friends lives, and everyone who makes an impact on you lives. You'll never know when they'll be gone. Life is awesome because of those we know.
 
Dinosaurs didn't exist... at least on Earth. Let's use logic here. The biblical geneological timeline can be traced as far back as 6000 BCE. Radio-carbon dating is irrefutable, and we can date even homo sapiens to 200,000 BCE. Dinosaurs are dated to 230,000,000 years ago! So what gives?

Clearly what we are seeing here is Earth was combined via chunks of other recycled planets. Those planets had existed previously with their own skeletal deposits of life forms, and those deposits included dinosaurs and other archaic species.

Since most of us here are God-loving Christians who want to retain our faith, this is the best theory. I know it seems a little strange, but if you keep trying to believe it, it gets more and more believable. Weird how that happens, lol.

- Craig
 
Gameface said:
So in essence faith is the rejection of one's own mind. Rejection that the way in which we, as intelligent beings, interact with the world should be the result of thinking and reasoning. Rejection of our individual responsibility to understand this world as it is, rather than the way we wish, hope or desire that it is.

Anyone can convince them self of any fantasy they desire if they try hard enough and actively evade the facts that contradict their fantasy.

That's my take, anyway.
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I've yet to read the rest of this thread, but this was perfect.
 
JazzSpazz said:
Why would that be a problem. That is the whole point of faith, stepping out of your comfort zone and testing something. You may find that you take that step of faith into the darkness, only to find your way is lit for a step or two. I am not so blind that I say if I cannot see it or touch it, it must not be true. I have explained how anyone can test it, it's not like I'm saying just trust me. Try it out for yourselves. You don't even have to tell me about it..... it just requires some desire, honesty, and yes.... a little faith.
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In my experience, the more dogmatic someone is, the less likely they are to step out of their comfort zone. It's far easier to allow yourself to be fed "eternal truth" and "everlasting salvation" than to try to figure things out, with the knowledge that you have a very short amount of time to do so.
 
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