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TroutBum said:
Harry Potter > The Bible
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For interest and ease of reading you ain't kidding.






See my sig for an analysis of the 2 popular series of the last decade.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Post of the thread.
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Fun stuff, NUMBERICA. . . . Jazzfan_Bayamon 2 didn't have the (???) in his inequality. You raise some interesting questions. . . .

interesting mathematical inequality.

would like to know your particular parameters of measure.

For the faithful, please bear with me for a while, as this is something that can be dealt with in a fun-loving way and I'm really not going to take it seriously no matter how serious you may be.
For the unbelieving, please bear with me for a while, as this is something that should be logically irrelevant to you because you really aren't in the game anyway.
For the disputing who are struggling to justify disbelief, please bear with me, as this is something you need to remember=== we humans do some of our best thinking when we can laugh at ourselves and our thinking. . . .

If we discuss the comparison between the Book of Mormon and the Bible in terms of historicity, why shouldn't an entirely made-up fantasy rate just as good if not better than a less imaginative collection of writings that has always been hotly disputed by the neighbors/enemies of the faithful followers??? History, after all, is just the claims of the prevailing parties, and largely constructed to justify the contest. . . .and bury not just the bodies but also the beliefs of the vanquished.

If we discuss the comparison in terms of doctrinal excellency, why shouldn't the cohesive product of an Amherst theological student that maintains a consistent doctrinal perspective throughout beat the internally inconsistent product of a few score writers spread across time addressing entirely different problems from shifting perspectives with the result that the "New Testament" requires a massive claim of also having displaced the Law of the Old Testament with a New Covenant?

As a fun aside, for those who may still wish to just believe both the Bible and the Book of Mormon with simple faith in the whole, when you went into that private little place of prayer to determine whether God would confirm the underlying truth of it all, was it even relevant how we got those "scriptures", or was it just the issue of what a trusted Divine being wanted you to consider as a beneficial guide? And what was the exact contra proposition?

If somebody came to me asking whether he/she should believe in Harry Potter with an underlying moral theme about "confronting fears, finding inner strength, and doing what is right in the face of adversity", I maintain that as a Divine Infallibe Being Interested in Guiding Mankind, I should encourage them towards placing more faith in the book with the underlying moral theme, especially when the alternative might be going out with some bad friends and smoking weed, and doing stuff they really wouldn't be able to tell their parents about. . . .
 
GVC said:
In my experience, the more dogmatic someone is, the less likely they are to step out of their comfort zone. It's far easier to allow yourself to be fed "eternal truth" and "everlasting salvation" than to try to figure things out, with the knowledge that you have a very short amount of time to do so.
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How so? If somebody really believes that they are going to be carrying knowledge and understanding over and maybe one day themselves become a God, don't they have more incentive to learn?

Everyone else is trying to learn for money, to impress others, or learn for learning sakes. It's much harder to do so when you think your life's work is going to go up in a puff the second you die. Once you have money, why learn? Why not just indulge your life away?
 
Definitely Tolkien >> Lewis. Tolkien created an entire culture, mythos, languages (in other works he fleshed out middle-earth languages almost to the level of klingon) far beyond the simple Narnia stories. I loved the Narnia books as a kid, read them many times, but Tolkien always was the "grown up" fantasy stories. Tolkien even went so far as to imply it was a long-dead history of earth cultures. His works are the most-copied and influenced virtually every single fantasy work written since then. Stephen King said arguably his greatest work, the Dark Tower series, was directly influenced by Tolkien's middle earth.

Now if you are talking purely fiction that is in essence Christian propoganda (although still entertaining) then Lewis > Tolkien.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Definitely Tolkien >> Lewis. Tolkien created an entire culture, mythos, languages (in other works he fleshed out middle-earth languages almost to the level of klingon) far beyond the simple Narnia stories. I loved the Narnia books as a kid, read them many times, but Tolkien always was the "grown up" fantasy stories. Tolkien even went so far as to imply it was a long-dead history of earth cultures. His works are the most-copied and influenced virtually every single fantasy work written since then. Stephen King said arguably his greatest work, the Dark Tower series, was directly influenced by Tolkien's middle earth.

Now if you are talking purely fiction that is in essence Christian propoganda (although still entertaining) then Lewis > Tolkien.
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Well said.

Sorry for calling you stupid, Duck.
 
What's with all the Gollum hate mother****ers?
 
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