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Tinsley signed!?!?!

UGLI has it nailed.

I still can't believe a few months back how much grief I took for saying the exact same thing and soooo many were responding with how delusional I was to not be able to accept we're tanking. Simpletons is right. Now having said that, I think most of the board gets it now... even if it doesnt appear that way during a game and in the aftermath that follows.
 
UGLI baby said:
I want to punch almost everyone in this thread square in the face. It's not that ****ing hard of a concept bros.

THE goal and only goal of the season is to develop our young core and find out exactly what we have in them.

This is not a tank in the mold of the Wizards, Bobcats, Raptors or one of those other ****ty *** franchises that are perpetually in tank mode with absolutely no plan or hope for the future.

We have a plan. We have A+ caliber young prospects, multiple draft picks in future years, and salary cap space.

If some of you seriously think that player personnel decisions on the level of a Jamaal Tinsley signing come down to "Well who do you guys think helps us lose more games?" You are a simpleton, and I'm sorry but this year will be hard for you to understand, so look away.

By FAR the impact that Tinsley could have on the young guys development is greater and more important than the potential games he could win us to hurt our tank. (LMFAO I can imagine fans around the NBA saying "oh ****, Jazz got Tinsley! Chalk up 6 more wins for teh Utah boyz" )

We are not sacrificing this season just for a high draft pick. We took a year to get off the #7-10 seed treadmill, strip the franchise fo it's core, and chart out the franchise's future like few teams in the NBA ever have a chance to do, and we got incredibly lucky that all the stars aligned for us and our reboot is taking place in a year with a stacked draft.

I would think that for any die hard fan this would all fall into "well yeah, duh" territory, but apparently some people don't freaking get it.

Tanking is not the goal. The goal is to rid the franchise of ANY piece that isn't a possible championship piece, then develop the pieces that could be. If losing is a byproduct of that, so be it. The draft is stacked? Lucky us.

The franchise took the choice of trying for a future championship no matter the growing pains. Soo different than saying, "hey we suck, lets just tank lolz".

Crazy that some people have missed it.




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tl;dr tbh
 
Sneakers said:
**** yeah man, Tinsel Town is old but these PG scrubs were bringing us down so hard. Last year Tinsley would be an upgrade from JLIII
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VINYLONE said:
I like Tinsley.
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orangello said:
JL3 hurts everyone's development. He will turn it from a one year tank job to a five year tank job.

No need for that.
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CitizenofCapua said:
Yes we are tanking but tanking doesnt mean "play like a headless chicken on the court" and if Tinsley is your starting PG you are still tanking believe it or not. And it would be better for our young bigs to have a pass first PG instead of chucker first PG.

Welcome back Tins!!
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Stoked said:
I am in favor of this move. As it stands right now the Jazz have no PG and that affects the development of the bigs. Tinsley is a good locker room guy that can help the youth a little while not really changing the amount of wins or losses. I am glad they signed him.
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PKM said:
Didn't read the thread but am sure someone must have mentioned this is a great pick up because he's not good enough to slow the tank, but is good enough to help our youth progress better through the year.

*takes breath after extra long sentence*

So I like it.
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Just to link a few UGLI. Relax Doe.
 
UGLI baby said:
I want to punch almost everyone in this thread square in the face. It's not that ****ing hard of a concept bros.

THE goal and only goal of the season is to develop our young core and find out exactly what we have in them.

This is not a tank in the mold of the Wizards, Bobcats, Raptors or one of those other ****ty *** franchises that are perpetually in tank mode with absolutely no plan or hope for the future.

We have a plan. We have A+ caliber young prospects, multiple draft picks in future years, and salary cap space.

If some of you seriously think that player personnel decisions on the level of a Jamaal Tinsley signing come down to "Well who do you guys think helps us lose more games?" You are a simpleton, and I'm sorry but this year will be hard for you to understand, so look away.

By FAR the impact that Tinsley could have on the young guys development is greater and more important than the potential games he could win us to hurt our tank. (LMFAO I can imagine fans around the NBA saying "oh ****, Jazz got Tinsley! Chalk up 6 more wins for teh Utah boyz" )

We are not sacrificing this season just for a high draft pick. We took a year to get off the #7-10 seed treadmill, strip the franchise fo it's core, and chart out the franchise's future like few teams in the NBA ever have a chance to do, and we got incredibly lucky that all the stars aligned for us and our reboot is taking place in a year with a stacked draft.

I would think that for any die hard fan this would all fall into "well yeah, duh" territory, but apparently some people don't freaking get it.

Tanking is not the goal. The goal is to rid the franchise of ANY piece that isn't a possible championship piece, then develop the pieces that could be. If losing is a byproduct of that, so be it. The draft is stacked? Lucky us.

The franchise took the choice of trying for a future championship no matter the growing pains. Soo different than saying, "hey we suck, lets just tank lolz".

Crazy that some people have missed it.




£¥£
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Well yeah, duh.
 
UGLI baby said:
I want to punch almost everyone in this thread square in the face. It's not that ****ing hard of a concept bros.

THE goal and only goal of the season is to develop our young core and find out exactly what we have in them.

This is not a tank in the mold of the Wizards, Bobcats, Raptors or one of those other ****ty *** franchises that are perpetually in tank mode with absolutely no plan or hope for the future.

We have a plan. We have A+ caliber young prospects, multiple draft picks in future years, and salary cap space.

If some of you seriously think that player personnel decisions on the level of a Jamaal Tinsley signing come down to "Well who do you guys think helps us lose more games?" You are a simpleton, and I'm sorry but this year will be hard for you to understand, so look away.

By FAR the impact that Tinsley could have on the young guys development is greater and more important than the potential games he could win us to hurt our tank. (LMFAO I can imagine fans around the NBA saying "oh ****, Jazz got Tinsley! Chalk up 6 more wins for teh Utah boyz" )

We are not sacrificing this season just for a high draft pick. We took a year to get off the #7-10 seed treadmill, strip the franchise fo it's core, and chart out the franchise's future like few teams in the NBA ever have a chance to do, and we got incredibly lucky that all the stars aligned for us and our reboot is taking place in a year with a stacked draft.

I would think that for any die hard fan this would all fall into "well yeah, duh" territory, but apparently some people don't freaking get it.

Tanking is not the goal. The goal is to rid the franchise of ANY piece that isn't a possible championship piece, then develop the pieces that could be. If losing is a byproduct of that, so be it. The draft is stacked? Lucky us.

The franchise took the choice of trying for a future championship no matter the growing pains. Soo different than saying, "hey we suck, lets just tank lolz".

Crazy that some people have missed it.




£¥£
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Broner post.
 
UGLI baby said:
I want to punch almost everyone in this thread square in the face. It's not that ****ing hard of a concept bros.

THE goal and only goal of the season is to develop our young core and find out exactly what we have in them.

This is not a tank in the mold of the Wizards, Bobcats, Raptors or one of those other ****ty *** franchises that are perpetually in tank mode with absolutely no plan or hope for the future.

We have a plan. We have A+ caliber young prospects, multiple draft picks in future years, and salary cap space.

If some of you seriously think that player personnel decisions on the level of a Jamaal Tinsley signing come down to "Well who do you guys think helps us lose more games?" You are a simpleton, and I'm sorry but this year will be hard for you to understand, so look away.

By FAR the impact that Tinsley could have on the young guys development is greater and more important than the potential games he could win us to hurt our tank. (LMFAO I can imagine fans around the NBA saying "oh ****, Jazz got Tinsley! Chalk up 6 more wins for teh Utah boyz" )

We are not sacrificing this season just for a high draft pick. We took a year to get off the #7-10 seed treadmill, strip the franchise fo it's core, and chart out the franchise's future like few teams in the NBA ever have a chance to do, and we got incredibly lucky that all the stars aligned for us and our reboot is taking place in a year with a stacked draft.

I would think that for any die hard fan this would all fall into "well yeah, duh" territory, but apparently some people don't freaking get it.

Tanking is not the goal. The goal is to rid the franchise of ANY piece that isn't a possible championship piece, then develop the pieces that could be. If losing is a byproduct of that, so be it. The draft is stacked? Lucky us.

The franchise took the choice of trying for a future championship no matter the growing pains. Soo different than saying, "hey we suck, lets just tank lolz".

Crazy that some people have missed it.




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Great post. Totally agree. I was just commenting on the weird logic that some people were using to say that somehow Tinsley is going to improve our players' development without any impact on our record.

Personally, I think it's way more important for our current lottery talent to start living up to their potential rather than somehow staying sucky enough to win the lottery.

I suppose there's some kind of perfect balance in which all 5 of our core put up promising numbers, and we get the missing piece top 3 pick, but if I had to pick I would take our current number 3 picks playing like stars and winning games.
 
mct said:
Personally, I think it's way more important for our current lottery talent to start living up to their potential rather than somehow staying sucky enough to win the lottery.

I suppose there's some kind of perfect balance in which all 5 of our core put up promising numbers, and we get the missing piece top 3 pick, but if I had to pick I would take our current number 3 picks playing like stars and winning games.
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It will happen (or it may happen), but it will take time. It took Stockton & Malone 6 seasons after Dantley's departure just to reach the Conference Finals the first time. Same deal for Drexler, Jordan, Barkley (once Erving retired and Malone was traded), Ewing. It took each of them time to learn to win, and in most cases they had better support than the current Jazz youngsters have (Evans, Biedrins, Jefferson, Lucas, et al.).
 
Sounds like Kendall Marshall may become a free agent shortly if the Wizards release. I think he is worth a look.
 
Core4 said:
Not only can't he shoot, but he won't shoot (as opposed to Mo last season). Tinsley will try his best to get the ball to the other four players, which will give them more touches. The downside is that other teams know he can't shoot and that's going to make it harder for Favors and Kanter. They'll be hit with a double team immediately because no one has to guard Jamaal.
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This could be good.... Give favors and Kanter more practice on throwing out of the double team!!!



Glass freakin half full bitches!!!
 
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