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well he's definitely their franchise guy. have you watched any pels game recently? the kids been seeing his minutes in the high 30s, leading his teams in minutes played on several occasions. he isn't exactly a floor spacer but he's a willing shooter who currently knocks down his threes at 34%. he's basically Jonathan Isaac and would you consider a healthy Isaac the franchise guy for Orlando?

again like I said, no team has ever traded away their young stars while they were still on their rookie contract unless you offer them one of the all-stars or all-nba players. a pick or two and one of our garbage min guys simply won't be enough to get it done. just find me the one occasion where this has ever happened.
Royce plays 35+ minutes per night but that doesn't make him untradeable.

That NOLA team is built around Ingram, Zion and Val. When Zion comes back, they aren't sitting Ingram or Zion to play Herb. Maybe they play Herb at the 2, but I guarantee his minutes suffer when Zion comes back.

He is attainable. Do we want to win a title or not? Hell, trade Clarkson if we have to. This Herb kid could be exactly what we need to get over the hump.

Herb only takes 1.5 3's per game. He's not a true floor spacer.

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Omer Yurtseven is making me sad. Currently tearing the Suns apart in Phoenix. 4 points, 11 boards, 7 assists with 0 turnover, basically on a triple double alert half way through 3 quarters. Also a +12, fourth highest amongst all players on the floor.

And we took DOKE over him.

It's like the 2007 when we took Fesenko over Marc Gasol happening all over again.
 
I would be alright with sending Detroit expiring and picks for grant. Grant played really well against us in the round against Denver and I would love to have that on our team. Joe and Gay plus picks works for salary. Also not sure if smart and clarkson are considered comparable overall but if smart can bring as much to the team as JC does but with more defense I’d be all for a swap there of sorts.

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That's why I said it's a pipedream. I'm sure they will slide him beside Ayton once Crowder burns out. He could and probably should be starting over Crowder right now, though.
Yurtseven is arguably the best center on the floor tonight. and he's probably gonna go back to DNPs when Bam comes back. Heat will have a tough decision to make in the summer.
 
That's why I said it's a pipedream. I'm sure they will slide him beside Ayton once Crowder burns out. He could and probably should be starting over Crowder right now, though.
There are reports that they won't pick up his option to save money. He has been disappointment for them mostly after they reached for him.
 
Yurtseven is arguably the best center on the floor tonight. and he's probably gonna go back to DNPs when Bam comes back. Heat will have a tough decision to make in the summer.
I like Yurtsevens game too.

There are reports that they won't pick up his option to save money. He has been disappointment for them mostly after they reached for him.
That would be a shocker. Wow. He's shown out in the recent games he's got PT.
 
Royce plays 35+ minutes per night but that doesn't make him untradeable.

That NOLA team is built around Ingram, Zion and Val. When Zion comes back, they aren't sitting Ingram or Zion to play Herb. Maybe they play Herb at the 2, but I guarantee his minutes suffer when Zion comes back.

He is attainable. Do we want to win a title or not? Hell, trade Clarkson if we have to. This Herb kid could be exactly what we need to get over the hump.

Herb only takes 1.5 3's per game. He's not a true floor spacer.

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they will keep Jones over Zion. A guy who could play heavy minutes is better than a guy who doesn't play at all, which is the case with Zion right now.
 
they will keep Jones over Zion. A guy who could play heavy minutes is better than a guy who doesn't play at all, which is the case with Zion right now.
We could get Jones right now if we traded some combination of Clarkson (to a 3rd team), Butler (to NOLA) and a pick to NOLA (probably from the 3rd team).

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We could get Jones right now if we traded some combination of Clarkson (to a 3rd team), Butler (to NOLA) and a pick to NOLA (probably from the 3rd team).

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It would definitely take either one of Clarkson, Bogey or Conley to get Jones. i just don't see it happening.
 
Bogey is so good offensively and so clutch that you just can't sit him. I Agree about their defense though.
Without a lock down "go to defender", it doesn't matter who we put out there. Royce is a good defender, but he doesn't stop smaller guys who light us up. Conley doesn't either, and there definitely isn't anybody we got off the bench.

We need a great primary defender or at least two high level defenders we can bring off the bench like the Clippers did to us last postseason.

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Without a lock down "go to defender", it doesn't matter who we put out there. Royce is a good defender, but he doesn't stop smaller guys who light us up. Conley doesn't either, and there definitely isn't anybody we got off the bench.

We need a great primary defender or at least two high level defenders we can bring off the bench like the Clippers did to us last postseason.

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Let's just stop with the "Royce is a good defender" narrative. He is not. He is average. He got his *** eaten tonight.
 
Seems the better he gets offensively the worse he gets defensively.
He'll go hero mode on offense, then go back on the other end and just relax. From his body language it seems like he basically says, "ok guys, I'll take care of the offense, you guys take care of the defense."
 
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