Trey Burke/Chris Paul

[Game6Conley]

I have a feeling you aren't purchasing a Trey Burke jersey anytime soon.....

actually i have one ordered already, i said many times in the draft thread that trading both picks up for a PG was probable, and if the pick is is Trey Burke, expect them to give him minutes to compete for RoY

...

i said then we should trade him at peak value, off of the RoY into the 2014 draft, coupled with our pick outside of the lotto, to get a major piece in the draft, figure a 1 year rental and offer John Wall a max contract next july

 

[The Midnight]

The board was pretty evenly split between Chris Paul and Deron. And then there was that one guy (TuffTiger?) arguing for Jarett Jack. I was fervently on the Paul side(*). Paul's shooting percentage and explosively were the two main things that impressed me.

(*) although Deron quickly won me over after the season started

It's interesting how Deron seems to be more mentally mature earlier on, while Chris Paul is a lot more mature now......

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

Truly some worldclass trolling here (golf clap).

I don't like PGAB much, but I re-watched the championship game the other day, and Siva far outplayed Burke. Burke was good at times in the game, but Siva seemed to be unstoppable in the game getting to the hoop at will in the second half.

 

[Ron Mexico]

https://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2013/01/ohio_states_aaron_craft_gives.html

i dont recall too many 2nd round graded PG's giving cp3 trouble in college

peyton siva outplayed burke in the national championship, hes a 2nd round grade guy also

CP3 is a great player in the NBA.

All we can compare right now is what both did in college since Burke has not played in the NBA and it will be a couple years until we can make this comparison.

Will Burke be as good as CP3? Not likely but we are hoping he is a solid all star level player.

Now back to the **** you are spewing out of your mouth about their college careers.

Stats of both players in college Burke = CP3

Size and athleticism more or less Burke = CP3

Leading their team in the NCAA tournament Burke >> CP3 CP3 never took his team past the sweet sixteen so you cant talk about how he played in the nation championship game

You want to talk about how 1 game 1 player out played Burke in College? CP3 had plenty of bad games in college, every player does. CP3 has had plenty of bad games in the NBA so does every player. You cant look at one game and try to make a conclusion out of it. You can make most players look good from one game and you can make all players look bad from one game.

No one here is saying he is the next CP3 we are just trying to find the most similar player in college based on the stats and measurements from college and he is pretty similar on paper to CP3. Will that equate to NBA? I sure as hell dont know but I do know your guess is no better than anyone elses based on how you are analysing him.

 

[The Black Swordsman]

People like Pointgod alec are really comparing someones 8 year NBA career with someones 2 year NCAA career while the rest of us are trying to be more logical and using both of their college careers for comparison. If you compare both of their college careers I think the analysis I gave is very fair.

In passing Trey was as good as Chris Paul. In shooting and defense Trey was slightly worse.

 

[Stifle Tower]

well then im dumb, thats the biggest game of his career, if he killed it in that game, think he falls to the t'wolves... ? HIS team, was run off the floor in the 2nd half, his AST/TO ratio was under 1, and he was in foul trouble

and your comparing him to the God of BBIQ, Chris Paul

How did Chris Paul do when he competed for the National Championship? Waiting...waiting... Look, it's silly to compare Trey Burke to Chris Paul. The fact Trey wants to pattern his game after Paul's is admirable. I don't think any of us are expecting him to be the best PG in the NBA. I'd be happy if he ends up being top-10 in a few years. Let's just have Trey be the best he can this season. What I do foresee...if he gets the minutes...is Burke being a serious candidate for ROY.

 

[Game6Conley]

PointGod_AB, seeing as you don't seem to like Try Burke very much, who did you want the Jazz to pick at the Draft?????????????

who they did pick... Shabazz Muhammad, and then watching Mason Plumlee fall past 21, made it worse.

The Gobert trade was so clutch though, i was furious until that happened.

i didnt say i dont like him, trey burke seperated himself from the pack of PG's this year on his own merit, and vs his draft class i certainly see why he was the 1st PG off the board

CP3 in my eyes is like one of the last great Floor Generals,

Steve Nash said these PG's like westbrook and D. Rose arent true pointguards, not because of them lacking anything, but for the fact they have all the tools to play SG also.

Super Guards

CP3 is the last of a dying breed, a True Floor General

if Trey Burke is a floor General, AWESOME, i love the pick then, id like to see some evidence in the leauge before hes annointed

my issue is putting the unproven player on such a pedestal.... also downplaying the National Championship game is not legit in my book, sorry

Kemba Walker was too small to be a top 10 pick.... UNTIL he did this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lI0KQ35Emo

Alex Oriakhi who no one had on their mock drafts, also played big in the championship game (11 and 11)

 

[ncoloradojazz]

ill show u a video of Aaron Craft stonewalling Trey Burke, 1v1

look at this gameplan vs cp3 in college, they threw the kitchen sink at CP3, and the 2nd leading scorer on wake forest, Eric Williams was about 16ppg, but was under 50% ft's so teams employed the hack a shaq nightly, costing CP3 many assists

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTjKCV6pK7I

Whats cp3 head vs head record vs dwill?Bball iqgod.lmao,,,,Burke played his team up.See thats what leafers do..Paul wake team was number 1 and 2 early in season and then they slid..ThATS a sign of not being a great leader.I watch alot of bball and cp3 has developed a shot but in college it was broke and burke always been a greatshooter...Your an idiot dude.Do us all a favor and quit watching basketball

 

[Game6Conley]

How did Chris Paul do when he competed for the National Championship? Waiting...waiting...

no national championship for chris paul

did chris paul have any lottery picks on his teams?

Glenn Robinson III and Mitch McGary are projected lotto picks(by some prognosticators) in a strong draft, and Tim Hardaway Jr went in the 1st (as i have been saying since i started speaking on Hardaway JR)

a national champion chris paul is not

starting pg on a gold medal squad, yup

all-star MVP, yup

you dreamers out there, keep dreaming. trey burke is great, do not compare him to one of the all time greats

those are shoes he cannot fill

 

[The Black Swordsman]

I don't think any of us are saying Trey Burke will be as good Chris Paul. All we are saying is this "look, Chris Paul had really good stats in certain areas in college. Trey Burke also had great stats in many of these same areas. That is a good sign." Next you come on here comparing Chris Paul's NBA STATS to Trey Burke's NCAA STATS which is one of the most full retard things I've seen someone do on these forums which is pretty considerable since AKMVP and Siro are on these boards too.

 

[Game6Conley]

People like Pointgod alec are really comparing someones 8 year NBA career with someones 2 year NCAA career while the rest of us are trying to be more logical and using both of their college careers for comparison. If you compare both of their college careers I think the analysis I gave is very fair.

In passing Trey was as good as Chris Paul. In shooting and defense Trey was slightly worse.

actually your generalizing, and putting words in my mouth... quote me next time.

you keep saying his passing is as good as chris pauls, so im guessing you think MCW's passing is superior to both?

how is Trey Burke a better passer than MCW?

care to project Trey Burkes stats for us?

forward thinking, stop living in the past.

what has trey burke done to convince you that his passing will translate to the NBA's as Pauls had

Paul has established himself since 2005 to be an Elite Passer

do you qualify Trey burke as an Elite passer?

do elite passers have more turnovers than assists in their biggest games?

 

[Game6Conley]

I don't think any of us are saying Trey Burke will be as good Chris Paul. All we are saying is this "look, Chris Paul had really good stats in certain areas in college. Trey Burke also had great stats in many of these same areas. That is a good sign." Next you come on here comparing Chris Paul's NBA STATS to Trey Burke's NCAA STATS which is one of the most full retard things I've seen someone do on these forums which is pretty considerable since AKMVP and Siro are on these boards too.

actually you compared Trey Burkes passing favorably to CP3's and have presented no evidence to support your argument, in a forward looking sense, your concern is only whats in the rearview mirror

instead you condense what the forum feels and pass that off as fact

whos the retard again?

retarded iq is 50-69, mines triple that plus some...

 

[Game6Conley]

do you see trey burke making Team USA?

making the all star game?

leading the league in assists?

leading the league in steals?

great... now tell me WHY, or stop nitpicking

 

[The Black Swordsman]

cp3 averages 9.8 assists per game, for his career, only surpassed by Magic and Stockton all time

you think Burke (who had more turnovers than assists in the national championship) is on his level of playmaking ability? seriously?

also Cp3's carreer AST/TO ratio is 4:1

even in college Burkes was 3:1, who knows what it will be in the NBA

but to say it will be on par with CP3's is basically saying Burke should have went #1 overall

You wanted me to quote you comparing CP3's NBA stats with Trey Burke's NCAA stats. I've already done this but since you insist I am doing it again. Trey Burkes AST/TO ratio in final year of college was better than CP3's.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

actually you compared Trey Burkes passing favorably to CP3's and have presented no evidence to support your argument, in a forward looking sense, your concern is only whats in the rearview mirror

instead you condense what the forum feels and pass that off as fact

whos the retard again?

retarded iq is 50-69, mines triple that plus some...

You are such a condescend brand of sour milk.


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[Game6Conley]

You are such a misunderstood poster


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I really like burks

 

[Bawse Dawg]

its a small world afterall

Hahaha, we'll that's a relief. I thought you were some thirty-something spoiled brat who is just an *** hole. Good to know you're just an immature teenager.


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[NUMBERICA]

If Trey Burke ends up being comparable to Chris Paul in the NBA then the Jazz just won this draft in a landslide. My gut feeling is that Trey can realistically be a borderline all-star for 10 years. He could be better, but at his worst I think he'd make an exceptional backup.

 

[The Black Swordsman]

I would be happy with a Kemba Walker personally. That is all we need if Enes Kanter reaches his potential (which I believe is a taller Kevin Love with better defense) or Derrick Favors reaches his.

 

[jope]

actually your generalizing, and putting words in my mouth... quote me next time.

you keep saying his passing is as good as chris pauls, so im guessing you think MCW's passing is superior to both?

how is Trey Burke a better passer than MCW?

care to project Trey Burkes stats for us?

forward thinking, stop living in the past.

what has trey burke done to convince you that his passing will translate to the NBA's as Pauls had

Paul has established himself since 2005 to be an Elite Passer

do you qualify Trey burke as an Elite passer?

do elite passers have more turnovers than assists in their biggest games?

i would venture to say that burke is a better assist man than MCW...

dude barely had more assists (+0.6, or 9% more) while turning the ball over way more (+1.2, or 35.3% more). TB ast/to: 3.04; MCW ast/to: 2.1

only 9% more assists while turning it over 35% more? make all the assists you want, but if you can't stop giving it to the other team, you aren't much of an assist man.