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Turkey's Last Stand (Eurobasket Edition)

aybars said:
did you guys know that one of the referees of Turkey-Poland game is expelled from the games? and greek team was fined 15.000 euros for trying to get in touch with their game's referees
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Before or after the game?
 
sepanol said:
Onan will make many TOs if he tries to bring the ball half court. I agree at times Preldzic can play 1, but every serious team has a legit PG anyway. Calderon, Parker, Teodosic, Kalneitis .... so it would be funny if we play without a real pg all game long. If i can find previous videos of Tunceri i will post it here, he wasnt that bad before, he was very good actually. Now he lost confidence and he is getting worse
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I don't know what to tell you. Turkey will not win this tournament with Tunceri and Arslan playing so many minutes. It will not happen.

And as GVC said, Hedo and Emir handle the ball a lot already. This really isn't that big of a transition in style-of-play since they've just been playing school-yard ball anyway.
 
GVC said:
Hedo and Preldzic already handle the ball a lot when they're on the court. If you keep one of them on the court at all times, Onan doesn't ever have to be the primary ball handler. Wouldn't you agree that Onan is a much better defender at the 1 and shooter than Tunceri (in this tournament)?
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Its onans mastery field already, he is a very good defender. Better than anyother perimeter players. But it is kinda difficult to cut Tunceri from the team right away. Turkey people are emotional, thats why they dont make logical decisions. It was a very good play at the end of France game, that we passed the ball and find the open man, but we found the wrong man, Tunceri. So there are those small details which makes Turkey one step behind of a contender. And we still had chance but couldnt even put the ball inbounds. So you cant win games like this.

No other team would come back from 15 points against france 7 mins down. Turkey has potential but somehow cant use it. And it is not about putting Tunceri out and PReldzic in, it is like a team mentality, we gotta share the ball, but we just force unnecessary 3s and i dont know why. When we stick to game plan and move the ball to post we are good. Otherwise even Poland could beat us
 
But i agree with you in general GVC, im just talking about something else. Maybe i could agree you if this is an nba team. But in Turkey they give different decisions in different cases. Also right now we gotta fix the team chemistry and stick to game plan. Then we are fine, i believe we can beat Germany tomorrow
 
sepanol said:
Turkey has potential but somehow cant use it. And it is not about putting Tunceri out and PReldzic in, it is like a team mentality, we gotta share the ball, but we just force unnecessary 3s and i dont know why. When we stick to game plan and move the ball to post we are good. Otherwise even Poland could beat us
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As I said in the other thread:

GVC said:
Based on personnel, the offense should be predicated on getting the ball to the rim. That is, dump the ball into Savas/Kanter, run PnRs with Asik, or have Hedo/Preldzic/Ilyasova attack off the dribble. Turkey should use their size to their advantage, and then, when opposing teams are forced to put bigger, inferior players on the court, have Preldzic, Onan and Ilyasova waiting outside to knock down open jumpers. Defenders will continue to play Turkey tight until they show a sustained commitment to pounding the ball inside.
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If Turkey is going to award time because they're scared of hurting someone's feelings, they don't deserve to win. But that may be the case. It makes more sense than anything else I can think of.
 
sepanol said:
But i agree with you in general GVC, im just talking about something else. Maybe i could agree you if this is an nba team. But in Turkey they give different decisions in different cases. Also right now we gotta fix the team chemistry and stick to game plan. Then we are fine, i believe we can beat Germany tomorrow
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What game plan?

Otherwise, I can see where you're coming from.
 
aybars said:
why would you wanna get in touch with referees after the game,lol
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Seriously? Maybe because you want to rant about the calls and work over the refs for the NEXT game. Maybe because you just want to rip their butts. Maybe because you think one has a hot wife you want to ask out on a date. Thanks for answering though.
 
PKM said:
Seriously? Maybe because you want to rant about the calls and work over the refs for the NEXT game. Maybe because you just want to rip their butts. Maybe because you think one has a hot wife you want to ask out on a date. Thanks for answering though.
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im sorry i didnt mean to upset you..ofcourse they tried to contact before the game,otherwise it would not be a big issue
 
NUMBERICA said:
I don't know what to tell you. Turkey will not win this tournament with Tunceri and Arslan playing so many minutes. It will not happen.

And as GVC said, Hedo and Emir handle the ball a lot already. This really isn't that big of a transition in style-of-play since they've just been playing school-yard ball anyway.
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We are not gonna win anyway but as i told, you cant just cut your veteran pg from team and start a player who isn't pg instead. In terms of basketball i agree with you, but right now im sure everyone is trying to give Kerem psychological support because he missed two game winning shots. Thats why if the coach turns his back to him, it will be a disaster for him, you know what im saying
 
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