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Jazzonic3030

Jazzonic3030

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Am i the only one that don't want to give up on him?
This is only his 2nd full year coaching.

Not everybody learns to ride their first bike at the same pace.
I think the Jazz are gonna stick with Ty and i respect them
if that's what they have decided.

On the other side, i feel like the team does not believe in him.
I feel like Coach Ty is not a leader. I questioned many of his decisions this year.

Give us your honest opinion on coach Ty.
 
Jazzonic3030 said:
Am i the only one that don't want to give up on him?
This is only his 2nd full year coaching.

Not everybody learns to ride their first bike at the same pace.
I think the Jazz are gonna stick with Ty and i respect them
if that's what they have decided.
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You're absolutely right that not everyone learns at the same pace, but I'd rather let him learn somewhere else. It is unlikely, in my opinion, that he will ever be more than a mediocre coach, but he may prove me wrong. If he proves me wrong, bring him back then. I respect the Jazz organization for giving him a chance, but we're the Jazz, not the Kings. We're used to winning (at least we used to be). I think he had a chance to prove himself. I would have liked to have seen us fire Ty and either (i) give Horny a chance or (ii) hire a proven winner or someone trending upward.
 
If the Jazz went down that road to let Ty go, i would of loved to see what horny could do.

CALJAZZFAN said:
You're absolutely right that not everyone learns at the same pace, but I'd rather let him learn somewhere else. It is unlikely, in my opinion, that he will ever be more than a mediocre coach, but he may prove me wrong. If he proves me wrong, bring him back then. I respect the Jazz organization for giving him a chance, but we're the Jazz, not the Kings. We're used to winning (at least we used to be). I think he had a chance to prove himself. I would have liked to have seen us fire Ty and either (i) give Horny a chance or (ii) hire a proven winner or someone trending upward.
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Here's Corbin's pedigree of coaches he studied under:

Cotton Fitzsimmons
Lenny Wilkens
Bill Musselman
Jerry Sloan
Pat Riley
Rick Adelman

Corbin thoroughly knows every basketball offense and every defensive intricacy, as he's studied under the best, and was chosen by one of the best to be an assistant. He's interviewed with several NBA front offices for head coaching positions. The credentials are there.

I think deep down the reason most people don't like Corbin is because he's blacker than coal and way too many Utahans still think a black guy can't play quarterback. They want a washed up old white guy or a younger HOFer (see all the Hornacek love here for example). What the haters don't realize is there aren't any good veteran coaches because all the young guys got fired every year by racists like Donald Sterling. And they want to go down that proven path to failure. East coast carousel yeehaw!
 
I give Corbin a year without Al because I remember how beautiful the offense runs without Al.
 
franklin said:
Here's Corbin's pedigree of coaches he studied under:

Cotton Fitzsimmons
Lenny Wilkens
Bill Musselman
Jerry Sloan
Pat Riley
Rick Adelman

Corbin thoroughly knows every basketball offense and every defensive intricacy, as he's studied under the best, and was chosen by one of the best to be an assistant. He's interviewed with several NBA front offices for head coaching positions. The credentials are there.

I think deep down the reason most people don't like Corbin is because he's blacker than coal and way too many Utahans still think a black guy can't play quarterback. They want a washed up old white guy or a younger HOFer (see all the Hornacek love here for example). What the haters don't realize is there aren't any good veteran coaches because all the young guys got fired every year by racists like Donald Sterling. And they want to go down that proven path to failure. East coast carousel yeehaw!
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Troll. We don't like him because he sucks. Race is irrelevant.

For you to think this shows you are a caveman.

Please, join us in this century.
 
I think deep down the reason most people don't like Corbin is because he's blacker than coal and way too many Utahans still think a black guy can't play quarterback. They want a washed up old white guy or a younger HOFer (see all the Hornacek love here for example). What the haters don't realize is there aren't any good veteran coaches because all the young guys got fired every year by racists like Donald Sterling. And they want to go down that proven path to failure. East coast carousel yeehaw![/QUOTE]

Yea that it. Those of us that want a different coach are racist. It couldn't be that he played veterans over better younger players. Sucked in the X and O of the game and end of the game management. Never could figure out rotations that worked, often benched hot players for some unknown reason, and stuck with veterans who were 1-8 from the field. It could be that we were almost last in the league in defense or that our offense looked like it was from the 1960s. Pass down to Jefferson and stand around for 23 seconds. Corbin was outcoached in almost every game played last year and it had nothing to do with the color of his skin. Oh yea we also didn't make the play-offs despite having better players than many playoff teams. But if it makes you feel better, were all racists and we ignore basketball reason and focus on the color of his skin. Good grief.
 
franklin said:
Here's Corbin's pedigree of coaches he studied under:

Cotton Fitzsimmons
Lenny Wilkens
Bill Musselman
Jerry Sloan
Pat Riley
Rick Adelman

Corbin thoroughly knows every basketball offense and every defensive intricacy, as he's studied under the best, and was chosen by one of the best to be an assistant. He's interviewed with several NBA front offices for head coaching positions. The credentials are there.

I think deep down the reason most people don't like Corbin is because he's blacker than coal and way too many Utahans still think a black guy can't play quarterback. They want a washed up old white guy or a younger HOFer (see all the Hornacek love here for example). What the haters don't realize is there aren't any good veteran coaches because all the young guys got fired every year by racists like Donald Sterling. And they want to go down that proven path to failure. East coast carousel yeehaw!
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I don't care who he has coached under. I could get you a long list of mediocre basketball players who have played for or with coaches and teammates who are in the HOF. That doesn't necessarily make them better basketball players. And just because Corbin has been an assistant under some very good coaches doesn't mean he understands or has assimilated the "intricacies" of those offenses and defenses. In fact, I think the last 2+ years have proven he has very little "feel" for the game. He has done NOTHING to improve the offense and defense. If anything, the offense has gotten worse as he has stopped or allowed to stop the ball movement and cuts that used to make the Jazz offense so efficient. And defensively, his one big change was to funnel players baseline. Did that make any difference at all? Meanwhile, his substitutions have been rigid and the Jazz were routinely thrashed in the 3rd quarter? Umm, guess what...the 3rd quarter is the primary indicator of what adjustments the teams have made at halftime in the locker room. Meanwhile, even WHEN he stumbles upon a lineup that has been successful (the Big 3 with Millsap at SF, pairing up Burks at PG with Foye at SG), he quickly abandons those in favor of the same old veterans who dig the Jazz a 10-pt hole in the 1st quarter NIGHT after NIGHT. I don't care if the coach is black, yellow or green. Just show me some intelligent basketball decisions, show some leadership skills, show some fire...not the "it's just one game" line after a loss. Not the "they followed the lead of the veterans" when those vets he cited had made what, ONE FG combined at that point in the game? Corbin is PATHETIC and it has nothing to do with skin color.
 
green said:
Troll. We don't like him because he sucks. Race is irrelevant.

For you to think this shows you are a caveman.

Please, join us in this century.
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Apparently you missed all the pathetic TyCo threads attacking him for the most petty things, such as a single facial expression. If that wasn't a lynching I don't know what is.


oldtimer said:
Yea that it. Those of us that want a different coach are racist. It couldn't be that he played veterans over better younger players. Sucked in the X and O of the game and end of the game management. Never could figure out rotations that worked, often benched hot players for some unknown reason, and stuck with veterans who were 1-8 from the field. It could be that we were almost last in the league in defense or that our offense looked like it was from the 1960s. Pass down to Jefferson and stand around for 23 seconds. Corbin was outcoached in almost every game played last year and it had nothing to do with the color of his skin. Oh yea we also didn't make the play-offs despite having better players than many playoff teams. But if it makes you feel better, were all racists and we ignore basketball reason and focus on the color of his skin. Good grief.
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How else do you explain your ridiculous claims that that team was better than the Memphises & Clipperses of the NBA, or that young players with stupid obvious gaps in their games were better?
 
franklin said:
How else do you explain your ridiculous claims that that team was better than the Memphises & Clipperses of the NBA, or that young players with stupid obvious gaps in their games were better?
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Perhaps the Jazz' young players had obvious gaps. So does EVERY player who enters the league. How do they close those gaps? Playing time. I could understand sitting players on the bench if we had LeBron, Wade, Durant, etc. But sacrificing valuable experience of the bigs for Jefferson, who plays ZERO defense or Millsap, who was giving minimal effort? What is the Jazz record without Al, Coach Corbin? And thanks for looking out for the future contracts of AL and Paul, who were never in the future plans of the Jazz. And how about playing MArvin and a slumping Foye over guys who might really have a chance to develop into solid rotation players for the Jazz in Burks and Carroll. Or, after Alec showed decent promise as a backup PG, sticking with Watson and Tinsley behind Mo, neither of whom could throw a stone in the ocean?
 
I like ya a lot, asseater, but your tired old hate Ty arguments are hard to take seriously anymore. No improvements throughout the season was put to bed long ago, "the big lineup" bit is factually (and visibly) inaccurate, absolutely zero consideration for locker room issues with 8 expiring vets (despite the entire profession crediting him on his performance there), rigid lineups if he does then tighten the rotation if he doesnt, wanting to knee jerk Marvin out prematurely in a slump with no credit to Marvin's excellent defensive rotations, that burks can actually play point while not crediting Corbin one bit for teaching him PnR and hiding his ridiculously weak all handling skills...

You tell me why else these walk *** arguments are so deeply ingrained despite clear facts proving the inherent silliness, & almost always combined with "hire old white guy" nonsense?
 
OK, franklin...I get it. You're either on the Jazz staff or affiliated with them somehow. Issues related to expiring contracts? There are NO issues. You play who is going to come back. Jefferson and Millsap can still get 20+ mins. And who cares a rat's %$# about Watson or Tinsley? Those guys won't even be in the league next year. Foye? Not our concern; he's not worth keeping. Marvin Williams? Yes, by all means create a PROBLEM so he HATES Utah. Then he opts OUT and solves our problem instead of paying him $8M for minimal production. Sorry to argue with you, Ty. I appreciate you playing hard for the Jazz when you were here, but truth is, you were a journeyman player and you're a journeyman coach. Go back to running drills and coaching the summer league team. You've made quite a bit of cash masquerading as a head coach for 2 1/2 years.
 
MoTown16 said:
OK, franklin...I get it. You're either on the Jazz staff or affiliated with them somehow.
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Oh, please. :rolleyes:

You know damn well people jumped his **** right from the get go for no reason, and carried the same hate right on through no matter what Corbin did. They were bitching about him taking a horrible no All Star team with a bunch of new young numbskulls & no training camp to a very respectable 55% win record. For a little perspective, that's what that Chicago team did this year. Everyone hated on Corbin for not playing Kanter in '12 too, even though it couldn't have been more obvious to the outside world that he had no business being on the court.

And to follow that "you're an insider" nonsense up with the Jazz should have lost every game possible and tanked the **** into oblivion? That's about as far as you can reach to justify hating a successful coach.
 
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