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Wait, I guess Chris Johnson is only partially guaranteed? We could cut him and have one open spot. I'm guessing we cut him before his fully guarantee date and do the 10 day contract thing we do every year.

Chris Johnson and Jeff Withey are only fully guaranteed if they are under contract on 1/10/17 (at least according to Basketball Insiders) Both could be cut for a roster spot.
 
With the Jazz sitting Lyles tomorrow, how many points do you think the Jazz will score, do they break 50pts for the game, good lord this team (yes I understand the limitations in trying to put together a roster for the Jazz) is the worst looking summer league team I can ever remember, again just speaking in terms of how this team looks after 4 games, on paper there may be worse but not on the court that I can ever remember.

And I don't care about the losses just how they look out on the court is pretty pathetic, well that is one thing they can do well is pretty consistently look pathetic, so I guess they have that going for them.

That game could get ugly without Lyles.
 
I don't think it's a (total) coincidence that the Jazz have just enough cap space to renegotiate Favors' contract up to the max this season.

Locke has implied that this is unlikely to happen.
 
He could get more money waiting.
That's not true though. He can get two (or three) additional years by waiting, but the Jazz could renegotiate his contract to make it worth more over the next four seasons than his current contract plus the first two years of a max contract signed in 2018.
 
That's not true though. He can get two (or three) additional years by waiting, but the Jazz could renegotiate his contract to make it worth more over the next four seasons than his current contract plus the first two years of a max contract signed in 2018.

He said that before the 2017/18 cap was lowered. I noticed Harden did a renogiation/extension shortly after that was announced, so no reason Favors wouldn't be interested in doing it also. That is, if he likes it here enough.
 
I don't think it's a (total) coincidence that the Jazz have just enough cap space to renegotiate Favors' contract up to the max this season.

What was his reasoning?

I'm paraphrasing, and he was speaking about the issue indirectly, but a difference in perceived market value was implied. On his podcast a few weeks ago.

My speculation is that DFav is feeling bad with all the inferior bigs making more. So he would like to sign an extension similar to Harden's. While the Jazz would like to take him to max next 2 years then drop by about 40%
 
If favors signs this year he is paid for 4 years. If he waits 2, he can lock down more money longer (2+5). But if he waits he also takes on injury-performance risk over next 2 years. So it is a bit tricky.
 
Pleiss did fine. Lyles did OK. Beyond that the team is the bad news bears. It appears all of our second round picks have holes, huge holes in their game. Bolomboy looks totally lost. Wallace can't shoot and Paige just looks like crap. Perhaps the Jazz can suggest they head to Europe like Hanlan. Yesterday Traveon Graham a training camp invitee had a 20 plus point game in Orlando and fromer Jazzman Kevin Murphy scored in double figures and their team is undefeated.
Really doesn't matter. Once he traded the pick, DL just gave up on a draft he viewed as weak. Lindsey isn't good at finding talent in the 2nd round. Neto, a 3rd-string PG, has been his "find" in the 2nd. It's just as easy to let players get signed to the DLeague and poach the best available, unowned owns (like Cotton, Millsap and Johnson).
 
Chris Johnson and Jeff Withey are only fully guaranteed if they are under contract on 1/10/17 (at least according to Basketball Insiders) Both could be cut for a roster spot.

I think Johnson is definitely gone. Withey will be kept for injury insurance.
 
I don't recall Locke saying this. Locke has said that DFav can be made whole with more now and less later.
Favors' current contract pays him $23.05MM over the next two seasons. He can be renegotiated up to his max amount for this season, $22,116,750 (LINK), and get 7.5% more than that next season, $23,775,506.25, for a total of $45,892,256.25 -- nearly $23MM more than he's set to earn.

The most recent cap projection for the 2018/19 season is $108MM. Favs' can make a bit less than 30% of that number in 2018/19 -- in the neighborhood of $30.5MM. A 7.5% raise would make his max 2019/20 salary about $32.8MM, and bring his total 2018/19-2019/20 compensation to $63.3MM.

Without a renegotiation, under the assumption that Favors gets the max from the Jazz in 2018 (unlikely?), Favors four-year total salary would be about $86.3MM. Ignoring inflation/the time value of money and contract length -- both of which are important considerations -- the two year extension after the renegotiation would only have to total $40.4MM for Favors to break even.

You'd think the Jazz could, at the very worst, negotiate a 4-year ~$80MM renegotiation and extension, which would include the max this season, a 7.5% raise next season, and then $34MM split between the 2018/19 and 2019/20 seasons.
 
I think Johnson is definitely gone. Withey will be kept for injury insurance.

I'd be surprised if Johnson is gone any significant time before his guarantee date, which is in January I believe. He will certainly be cut then, but he is on until then guarantee it.
 
I'd be surprised if Johnson is gone any significant time before his guarantee date, which is in January I believe. He will certainly be cut then, but he is on until then guarantee it.
Certainly through training camp. But in getting down to 15, perhaps he's the odd man out.

Hill, Exum, Mack, Neto (4)
Hayward, Hood, JJ, Burks, Ingles (5)
Gobert, Favors, Lyles, Diaw, Withey, Pleiss (6)

Not sure who CJ beats out to make the Day 1 roster. Do they cut a PG or Pleiss or Withey?
 
I'd be surprised if Johnson is gone any significant time before his guarantee date, which is in January I believe. He will certainly be cut then, but he is on until then guarantee it.
Don't the Jazz have to get roster size down to 15 before then?
 
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