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Utah Trade Deadline Discussion

LoPo said:
One this is unquestionable - about half the league has to shed contracts to avoid the luxury next season. So they either suck it up and do it now or risk it this summer or next deadline.
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Don't think it's that dire, but Utah WILL be set up to make a deal with a)cap space and b)the ability to trade the non-guaranteed contracts of Thabo, Udoh and Jerebko. Those last 3 are huge. Jazz could be front-runners for players like Mirotic since a team could trade, decline the options and wipe an entire salary off their books.

By not clogging up cap space, I see DL at least having a conversation with Jabari. He could clear cap space by renouncing all FA's and trading Burks (and still keep Exum, I think). Or maybe he approaches Milwaukee and they agree to some kind of a trade, better than Milwaukee losing him for nothing or having to match and go deep into the tax.

If not Jabari, DL considers other PF's or even Favors if Derrick doesn't find a great offer. SAme with Hood. Rodney and the Jazz may find the best situation is returning if the market is soft. Outside of getting a 1st, I'd keep Hood and Favors. And if anyone wants Burks + a 2nd, I'd jump on that offer.
 
I miss Mitch Kupchek and Byron Scott so much right now.
 
After catching my breath, this trade isn't that bad for Cleveland. If IT was a cancer (which the record kind of showed after he came back from injury), there is addiction by subtraction there. Clarkson is young and athletic which Cleveland desperately needs.

This looks awesome for the Lakers, but then again, how many times in the last decade has there been talk about how the Lakers are going to add all these stars? If they strike out again and Clarkson does well in Cleveland, they might get the raw deal here. And just imagine if they overpay the heck out of IT who can't guard 2018 Ostertag.
 
The Cavs winning a chip may be the only way LBJ stays, would u guys trade Favors and Hood for a bad contract and the nets pick? Would the prospects of a chip be enough to get the nets pick? Do any of u think Hood and Favors can put them over the top?


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elan_prodigy said:
Nothing. They dont care about IT just his expiring contract.
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Exactly. Wouldn't surprise me if IT is bought out.
But the comedic factor would be huge to see him criticize Ball.

Boston management has to be doing cartwheels. This may be enough to push the Lakers into the bottom-5, which sends their pick (2-5) to the Celtics. I think it goes to the 76er's if it's outside that range.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
The Cavs winning a chip may be the only way LBJ stays, would u guys trade Favors and Hood for a bad contract and the nets pick? Would the prospects of a chip be enough to get the nets pick? Do any of u think Hood and Favors can put them over the top?


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The Cavs can no longer trade the Nets pick since they traded their 2019 pick to Atlanta for Korver last year and the trade they made today.
 
LoPo said:
After catching my breath, this trade isn't that bad for Cleveland. If IT was a cancer (which the record kind of showed after he came back from injury), there is addiction by subtraction there. Clarkson is young and athletic which Cleveland desperately needs.

This looks awesome for the Lakers, but then again, how many times in the last decade has there been talk about how the Lakers are going to add all these stars? If they strike out again and Clarkson does well in Cleveland, they might get the raw deal here. And just imagine if they overpay the heck out of IT who can't guard 2018 Ostertag.
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IT as an expiring has value... I think George Hill was a better value for Cleveland (better defender and shooter) Could have had him for Shump and expirings and used your pick elsewhere. Nance is fine but he won't change anything for them. They effed up here pretty bad...

And that is without considering they just rolled the damn red carpet out for Lebron to go to LA... maybe Lebron knows where the bodies are buried and forced Gilbert's hand. This has potential to look so much worse for the Cavs in 6 months... but Jordan Clarkson doe.
 
elan_prodigy said:
The irony is that if he never ran the "back up the bricks truck" nonsense, Ainge may never have looked to move him in the first place.
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Don't believe that. Ainge knew he was damaged goods. And IT was already 30 and didn't fit the development timeline of the roster. I commented on the trade that only a fool would trade for a PG with a potential career threatening and most likely a career altering injury. Cavs had everything riding on the BKN pick, which I'm sure they thought was a lock to be top-3. If it turns out to be top-7, the gamble may have been worth it. If not, they could have received so much more from any number of teams. And not getting the pieces to help them now likely will cost them Lebron this summer.

If not the Lakers, the Clippers are certainly paving the way to have a max slot available for him.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
IT as an expiring has value... I think George Hill was a better value for Cleveland (better defender and shooter) Could have had him for Shump and expirings and used your pick elsewhere. Nance is fine but he won't change anything for them. They effed up here pretty bad...

And that is without considering they just rolled the damn red carpet out for Lebron to go to LA... maybe Lebron knows where the bodies are buried and forced Gilbert's hand. This has potential to look so much worse for the Cavs in 6 months... but Jordan Clarkson doe.
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The Cavs are overloaded with vets without athleticism. They have almost zero players who can create their own shot. They just traded two old vets for two super athletic guys. And Clarkson is a guy who can create his own shot. I don't think they should have included the 1st, but maybe that's what it took. Cleveland is better after this trade, but I'm not sure by how much.
 
Jack Strop said:
Don't believe that. Ainge knew he was damaged goods. And IT was already 30 and didn't fit the development timeline of the roster. I commented on the trade that only a fool would trade for a PG with a potential career threatening and most likely a career altering injury. Cavs had everything riding on the BKN pick, which I'm sure they thought was a lock to be top-3. If it turns out to be top-7, the gamble may have been worth it. If not, they could have received so much more from any number of teams. And not getting the pieces to help them now likely will cost them Lebron this summer.

If not the Lakers, the Clippers are certainly paving the way to have a max slot available for him.
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Youre right but he definetly escalated things.

As soon as Ainge heard that MAX contract talk he was looking for ways to shio him out. If it was Kyrie he would have got Rubio or whoever but IT was gone.
 
Not to mention they moved Frye in this deal who is a great locker room dude... just baaad.
 
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