What's new
By:

What Would Have to be Included in a LaVine Trade to Make it Acceptable?

Keefe said:
Nothing makes it acceptable. The guy plays losing basketball, will come in dick swinging, is oft-injured, and will end up wanting way too much money considering all that. Add in he probably sucks as a leader and it’s a no-brainer no.
Click to expand...
The "end up wanting way too much money" part of your post doesn't matter. We will never be signing him to a new contract.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Just thinking out loud...

What would it take for Lavine to be a positive trade asset with his contract? Be healthy and stay healthy. Probably make the all star game, or put up good numbers on a winning team. What are the chances of those things happening? In my opinion probably low, so I don't think I can flip his contract for anything other than at best neutral value.

How much does his contract limit what I can do for the next three years? If I'm trying to lose and play rookies, not much. In that case I want pick #11. But, do I really want Lavine as my vet on a team that is learning/growing, probably not. If I'm trying to win then I want guys who are cheap and good players, I'm not sure Chicago has anything that would do that.

So basically I can't really think of a scenario where I would think the reward would be worth the risk.
Click to expand...
Good post
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Just thinking out loud...

What would it take for Lavine to be a positive trade asset with his contract? Be healthy and stay healthy. Probably make the all star game, or put up good numbers on a winning team. What are the chances of those things happening? In my opinion probably low, so I don't think I can flip his contract for anything other than at best neutral value.

How much does his contract limit what I can do for the next three years? If I'm trying to lose and play rookies, not much. In that case I want pick #11. But, do I really want Lavine as my vet on a team that is learning/growing, probably not. If I'm trying to win then I want guys who are cheap and good players, I'm not sure Chicago has anything that would do that.

So basically I can't really think of a scenario where I would think the reward would be worth the risk.
Click to expand...
If he’s healthy and plays to 90% of his top end level I don’t think AS or winning will matter much. People say he’s empty calories but if you are scoring at his volume and being efficient it can’t be totally empty. At that point you may get a first and expiring money type of offer. So just like Collins… the money has to be made on the front end… if you get out of jail free or get a nice little kicker on the backend then awesome.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I mean it can’t help but I think the knee long term is the bigger issue.
Click to expand...
Maybe, but the Bulls are more of a short term focused team,so maybe they know the rehab isn't going well and he won't be ready to start the season so that makes the owner push for a trade harder.

This is kind of were it could be a perfect storm for Utah to upgrade talent and tank. Treat LaVine the same way you treated Sexton off his surgery. Bring him along slowly and sell it to him as an extended rehab year. The dude willingly got surgery to end his season last year instead of waiting, so it's not like he is opposed to sitting
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Maybe, but the Bulls are more of a short term focused team,so maybe they know the rehab isn't going well and he won't be ready to start the season so that makes the owner push for a trade harder.

This is kind of were it could be a oerf
Click to expand...
I think just like John Collins both parties signed his contract cuz the options weren’t great elsewhere and they hope to move him for value… then the value wasn’t really there and things kept getting worse. I think both sides have wanted to move on and the injury can’t help things. White popping now creates a conundrum that makes it hard to increase his value even if he’s healthy. The pistons/Magic may still bite without much of a sweetener but with money tight they don’t have a ton of options.
 
slc said:
Jazz would have to get #11 pick for #29 and/or #32 also
Click to expand...
I hate the idea of going after Lavine, so, yeah, I guess under totally unbelievable circumstances might I get on board. That, and the idea that @Saint Cy of JFC just floated of a recovery season for Lavine.

This season feels like the last opportunity the Jazz have to tank while keeping Lauri on-board so I really am just praying they seize the opportunity. And I kinda just have a strong, visceral dislike of Lavine.

By the way, anyone have any idea what the nature of the dynamic is between Lauri and Lavine?
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Ayo is potentially very good. 6'5 with 6'10 wingspan. Can guard 3 positions. Developing spot up shooter. Would be a great fit in Utah. Can put out some nice 3 guard lineups.
Click to expand...
What's his age?

Sent from my CPH2451 using Tapatalk
 
Ayo isn't redundant to anyone we have in the roster. He can play multiple positions. He doesn't have to be a starter. You have complete clown shoes on if you aren't asking for him in a deal because you are worried about a logjam.
 
Dwayne Wade was very high on Ayo and wanted Jazz to draft him
so maybe Ainge is finally listening to him
 
It is possible that a straight up trade for JC x2 if I'm being honest. Depends on what you feel about Key/Sexton. After sleeping on it, I don't think Sexton/Lavine is as much of a disaster as people make it out to be.

If JCx2 is indeed more desirable salary, I think 11 for 29/32 makes decent sense. Two "fake" first rounders has been shown to be able to get into the middle of a normal draft. I'm not sure how 2 real late 1st/early 2nd stack up to 2 fakes, but it's got to be reasonably close. In a bad draft 11 is still more valuable than 29/32 but probably not by as much as you'd might think.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Share this page
Back
Top